Hmmm, I'm back to the drawing board. Midnite -- psycho, piss taker or plain ol' pissed? I'm too bored to care now so will leave that little mystery to the ages.
Ps Ive noted you seem quite samilar with kristeen youngs work skylarker?
I take it you have all her Cds aswell and so know just how fantastic her music really is!
Nope, never heard of her.
You told me you were totally buds, you guys hung out. Maybe Kristeen has a different opinion of the friendship.
Are we obligated to like her because she opens for Moz? What exactly is the controversary? This isn't a fansite on Kristeen Young so why on earth would she come here expecting universal love? She's attached her wagon to his star? Did the other opening acts complain about his fans?
I've never wrote anything bad about her personally but the only impression she made on me was her singing "YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!" a lot. I couldn't tell when one song ended and the other began.
Your kind of asking a lot conflicting questions.
Obviously nobody is expected to like her. This particular thread results from her making an assessment of this site as a hang out for mental patients, as well as some other comment about execution. Hyperbolic, yeah, but nothing worse than things people here say daily...about her, or each other.
She hardly hitched her wagon to his star. He invited her, an unknown, struggling artist, along on a world tour. She accepted. Other than a relatively brief falling out publicly, he has repeated that offer time and again, continuing into the current tour. Read ANY of the press he gave around 2006 and 2007...he was obsessed with her, and spoke very highly of her music whenever the opportunity arose. If anything, he was hitching himself to her.
Previous and subsequent opening acts have had little reason to complain...they, like Kristeen, were invited along on an incredible job opportunity. The difference with them is that their stay was much more brief. Obviously with her he continues to see value in her art and he continues to want o help get her music heard. I'm fairly sure that's their business...both persoanlly and professionally. If you don't like what she does -and many don't- don't listen to her set and don't buy her albums. Problem solved.
The main problem with her among people on this site -particularly people like Crystal Geezer- is her cemented proximity to Morrissey. Many people here, even people way past their teenage years- still feel an intimate bond with Morrissey, because that's the "relationship" he strives for with his fans. If he had toured with Phranc or Gallon Drunk for six years, there would be just as much venom. It has little to do with the band, and much to do with Morrissey, where the hatred here is concerned.
The notion that she would curl up and die or turn into a coat check girl if Morrissey dumped her is absurd. She had a very successful stint opening for Ted Leo and the Pharmacists and -surprise surprise- did not experience one iota of the drama from Ted Leo fans that she does from Morrissey fans. Imagine that.
Additionally she has played many shows on her own -smaller venues, of course- and has contributed session work for many artists...including David Bowie. Additionally, she seems to still be in good with Tony Visconti, who has many connections in the industry and whom she has been working with since 1999...a full seven years befor even meeting Morrissey.
Saying what she did was kind of stupid but she has a right to her opinion. Besides, Morrissey says stupid things all the time to much larger groups of people...funny how many people here look the other way when that happens, though.
Your kind of asking a lot conflicting questions.
Obviously nobody is expected to like her. This particular thread results from her making an assessment of this site as a hang out for mental patients, as well as some other comment about execution. Hyperbolic, yeah, but nothing worse than things people here say daily...about her, or each other.
She hardly hitched her wagon to his star. He invited her, an unknown, struggling artist, along on a world tour. She accepted. Other than a relatively brief falling out publicly, he has repeated that offer time and again, continuing into the current tour. Read ANY of the press he gave around 2006 and 2007...he was obsessed with her, and spoke very highly of her music whenever the opportunity arose. If anything, he was hitching himself to her.
Previous and subsequent opening acts have had little reason to complain...they, like Kristeen, were invited along on an incredible job opportunity. The difference with them is that their stay was much more brief. Obviously with her he continues to see value in her art and he continues to want o help get her music heard. I'm fairly sure that's their business...both persoanlly and professionally. If you don't like what she does -and many don't- don't listen to her set and don't buy her albums. Problem solved.
The main problem with her among people on this site -particularly people like Crystal Geezer- is her cemented proximity to Morrissey. Many people here, even people way past their teenage years- still feel an intimate bond with Morrissey, because that's the "relationship" he strives for with his fans. If he had toured with Phranc or Gallon Drunk for six years, there would be just as much venom. It has little to do with the band, and much to do with Morrissey, where the hatred here is concerned.
The notion that she would curl up and die or turn into a coat check girl if Morrissey dumped her is absurd. She had a very successful stint opening for Ted Leo and the Pharmacists and -surprise surprise- did not experience one iota of the drama from Ted Leo fans that she does from Morrissey fans. Imagine that.
Additionally she has played many shows on her own -smaller venues, of course- and has contributed session work for many artists...including David Bowie. Additionally, she seems to still be in good with Tony Visconti, who has many connections in the industry and whom she has been working with since 1999...a full seven years befor even meeting Morrissey.
Saying what she did was kind of stupid but she has a right to her opinion. Besides, Morrissey says stupid things all the time to much larger groups of people...funny how many people here look the other way when that happens, though.
Are we obligated to like her because she opens for Moz? What exactly is the controversary? This isn't a fansite on Kristeen Young so why on earth would she come here expecting universal love? She's attached her wagon to his star? Did the other opening acts complain about his fans?
I've never wrote anything bad about her personally but the only impression she made on me was her singing "YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!" a lot. I couldn't tell when one song ended and the other began.
The truth about skylarker is he is a knob out American Moz fan who used to get drunk and email Kristeen./thread.
The truth about skylarker is he is a knob out American Moz fan who used to get drunk and email Kristeen.
Kristeen was in a shitty place so after the interview they became pen pals...Thats when he emailed her drunk. He then posted the emails on line-Thats the story around town.
Posting private email what a twat-Thats class is it?
He has also bad mouthed on here a number of times.
Telling people via PMs,posting letters and bad mouthing her here is shitty shit shit-if you were one time friends, which you weren't really.
I can't stand Kristeen or her music shes just a singing charity case-really no more than that.
If she was more than that she wouldn't need Morrissey to carry her, shes been going long enough, she has connections.
Morrissey isn't even that much a fan of her music, he likes it but he liked other support bands more.
BUT hey what do Americans know about class or about Morrissey?
The interesting part is both Skylarker knows nothing about Morrissey and Kristeen actually knows very little about him, beyond triva.
It comes to something when you play, I know the support band card.
I know of a person who did "know her", at least thats how it seemed to me (He doesn't say anything though).
I also have met her and Moz on a number of occasions, as well as know people in "The Circle" and I can tell you this, Kristeen is not close to Moz (she pretends she is), they haven't slept together as people say on here-thats just dumb.
Kristeen tries to use morrissey for her career but he knows what shes about, he likes her anyway and tries to help her out but there are limits.
Morrissey is kind and tries to help out most of his people on tour. Kristeen is traveling alone with them, so he tries to look out for her but thats it.
Most of the reason Kristeen is there is because its easy, she one person to deal with.
I do not believe there is any substantive evidenceKristeen was in a shitty place so after the interview they became pen pals...Thats when he emailed her drunk.
I do not believe there is any substantive evidence
The truth about skylarker is he is a knob out American Moz fan who used to get drunk and email Kristeen.
Kristeen was in a shitty place so after the interview they became pen pals...Thats when he emailed her drunk. He then posted the emails on line-Thats the story around town.
Posting private email what a twat-Thats class is it?
He has also bad mouthed on here a number of times.
Telling people via PMs,posting letters and bad mouthing her here is shitty shit shit-if you were one time friends, which you weren't really.
I can't stand Kristeen or her music shes just a singing charity case-really no more than that.
If she was more than that she wouldn't need Morrissey to carry her, shes been going long enough, she has connections.
Morrissey isn't even that much a fan of her music, he likes it but he liked other support bands more.
BUT hey what do Americans know about class or about Morrissey?
The interesting part is both Skylarker knows nothing about Morrissey and Kristeen actually knows very little about him, beyond triva.
It comes to something when you play, I know the support band card.
I know of a person who did "know her", at least thats how it seemed to me (He doesn't say anything though).
I also have met her and Moz on a number of occasions, as well as know people in "The Circle" and I can tell you this, Kristeen is not close to Moz (she pretends she is), they haven't slept together as people say on here-thats just dumb.
Kristeen tries to use morrissey for her career but he knows what shes about, he likes her anyway and tries to help her out but there are limits.
Morrissey is kind and tries to help out most of his people on tour. Kristeen is traveling alone with them, so he tries to look out for her but thats it.
Most of the reason Kristeen is there is because its easy, she one person to deal with.
LOL thought that post was funny! Made me smile and giggle anyways ! Sorry my strange sense of humor !
Not sure skylarker will see the funny side of it!!!!!! (well hes already in defense mode I note! )
I'm hardly in defense mode.
Bottom line is that very few people care about gossip unless it has substantial credibility. So far I don't see any specific claims here that are even remotely first hand or verifiable, and I'm not quite dumb enough to think that my side of the story will change anyone's opinion.
I'm hardly in defense mode. Someone made claims -an anonymous person at that; therefore probably banned- without citing references or specific sources of his "information."
I said most of it was either untrue or exaggerated. I'm sure that the people here who don't like me will believe every word of his story. I'm sure the people here who do like me will believe every word of mine...or at least give me the benefit of the doubt, in absence of evidence.
I mean, I don't think anyone believes that you are a super-ditzy Kristeen Young-obsessed uber-dunce. But that's the part you play here, and that's fine.
Bottom line is that very few people care about gossip unless it has substantial credibility. So far I don't see any specific claims here that are even remotely first hand or verifiable, and I'm not quite dumb enough to think that my side of the story will change anyone's opinion.