TTY: The Bullfighter Dies - single

Re: TTY: The Bullfighter Dies / single

Another example of their do the least we can do art work. Morrissey's name is nowhere to be found on the sleeve.

 

[Charlie Cheswick]

If you are a feminist, I wonder what you and Kewpie think of this Surface individual referring to RB as a c***? In (at least) America, this is the most offensive word you can use to describe a woman. It is like using the "n" word to describe a black person. And if he does have a wife and four daughters, how, at the very least..troubling..it is that he doesn't see the absolute hurtful nature of using this word. I wonder how he would feel if heard his wife or one of his daughter's being called this. Maybe in England it is different, and I am against mostly all moderation, but personal, abusive attacks shouldn't have a place here.

Just my tuppance as I'm online right now. For some people c*** is super offensive, for others it's just another swear word with no connotations whatsoever. c***, twat, cock, dick, it all adds up to the same thing when you call someone one of those. They're being a c***/twat/cock/dick.

I've only ever seen c*** used in the way people are talking about here in Saturday Night Fever.

Edit: I've just read that post back and it seems like it could be offensive but it's genuinely not meant to be. Just throwing it out there that swear words are just part of everyday language and are now throwaway rather than used with malice with a meaning attached to the actual word.

 

[Surface]

Surface I only post on here so what have you exactly done to discredit me ?
Disappointed.

Benny-the-British-Butcher

Nothing, you are mentioned on another site by a poster on that site. Other sites reference posters on here regarding their attitude toward Morrissey.

 

[Surface]

Just my tuppance as I'm online right now. For some people c*** is super offensive, for others it's just another swear word with no connotations whatsoever. c***, twat, cock, dick, it all adds up to the same thing when you call someone one of those. They're being a c***/twat/cock/dick.

I've only ever seen c*** used in the way people are talking about here in Saturday Night Fever.

Edit: I've just read that post back and it seems like it could be offensive but it's genuinely not meant to be. Just throwing it out there that swear words are just part of everyday language and are now throwaway rather than used with malice with a meaning attached to the actual word.

Correct, In the UK it is used in various conversations, sometimes its intentionally used as a nasty comment and sometimes its used in a friendly way, its used a lot in the building trade in the UK.

 

[evennow]

Correct, In the UK it is used in various conversations, sometimes its intentionally used as a nasty comment and sometimes its used in a friendly way, its used a lot in the building trade in the UK.

OK...just a heads up then that it just the c*** word directed at a woman that is a problem here. Maybe you could refrain from using that...other than that I enjoy reading your posts.

 

[Surface]

OK...just a heads up then that it just the c*** word directed at a woman that is a problem here. Maybe you could refrain from using that...other than that I enjoy reading your posts.

Ok point taken, I will refrain from using the word toward her going forward.

 

[evennow]

Just my tuppance as I'm online right now. For some people c*** is super offensive, for others it's just another swear word with no connotations whatsoever. c***, twat, cock, dick, it all adds up to the same thing when you call someone one of those. They're being a c***/twat/cock/dick.

I've only ever seen c*** used in the way people are talking about here in Saturday Night Fever.

Edit: I've just read that post back and it seems like it could be offensive but it's genuinely not meant to be. Just throwing it out there that swear words are just part of everyday language and are now throw away rather than used with malice with a meaning attached to the actual word.

It must be interesting watching an American movie like SNF from a British perspective. Like us watching Monty Python. Some things get lost in translation. I pray to God and all things holy that this movie is not how all Americans are judged...we would be doomed!

 

[marred]

Personally I don't think The Bullfighter dies is one of the stronger songs on the album, I prefer Staircase at the University, would have loved that to have been released.

I agree.

I like the song but it sounds like a B side. The guitars needed to be mixed louder. You can barely hear them but you can still hear the sound of the pick against the strings which is weird.

 

[marred]

Hilarious, I have my own personal anonymous troll. Hi!

I have one too, or maybe a few of them

 

[Anonymous]

Things are brewing. February will be an exciting month.

 

[Anonymous]

here is the problem:
benny and rb were mentioned negatively on racist blog. this is a badge of honor for both of them.
not so much someone who references the racist blog as backing their position. all you have to do is add one plus one to get two.

 

[bhops]

OK...just a heads up then that it just the c*** word directed at a woman that is a problem here. Maybe you could refrain from using that...other than that I enjoy reading your posts.

And you know this because...........................? As has been previously stated by others I think it just comes down to your personal tolerance of the word. Do you get offended if someone calls you a cock? I don't but that's just me.

 

[Anonymous]

Things are brewing. February will be an exciting month.

i hope so. wonder if there all new songs

 

[Loretta Swit]

Things are brewing. February will be an exciting month.

c2bebce167, I sure hope something's brewing.

 

[Anonymous]

And you know this because...........................? As has been previously stated by others I think it just comes down to your personal tolerance of the word. Do you get offended if someone calls you a cock? I don't but that's just me.

LOL. not surprised.

by the way now that we know that you all think insults are sooooo cool, why would you object to moz being insulted?

 

[Loretta Swit]

Re: TTY: The Bullfighter Dies / single

I don't think I've seen quite so many hideous colours on one small sleeve. It reminds me of that time I vomitted some pea soup

SPM/TTY mentions a French version of 'One of our Own', yet the reverse sleeve lists 'Scandinavia', "mixed by Joe Chiccarelli".

I seem to recall there was a 'French version' of 'Scandinavia' listed somewhere as a b-side to one of that series of singles that was mooted/pre-ordered at one point.

Or am I mental?

No, you're not mental:



Per the excellent intl_playboy Twitter/Tumblr.

All were available for pre-order on Amazon.fr

 

[bhops]

LOL. not surprised.

by the way now that we know that you all think insults are sooooo cool, why would you object to moz being insulted?

Depends on what the 'insult' is. How do you define it? I thought for instance the linking of that paedo blog on this front page was pretty insulting. One-word insults for some reason don't seem to bother me. Cock, c***, wanker don't really move my dial, maybe they move yours. For instance when I read that years ago that Gary Day had (allegedly) carved the words 'die wanker' into Moz's front door I found that pretty funny, vandalism aside. Maybe he should've sent him a postcard instead

 

[Famous when dead]

The only thing missing from this thread is a cervix...
Only on here would an unreleased record discussion turn in to a gynaecological raft of adjectives.
Sigh.
FWD

 

[Ryan]

Re: TTY: The Bullfighter Dies / single

No, you're not mental:

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Per the excellent intl_playboy Twitter/Tumblr.

All were available for pre-order on Amazon.fr

So "French Mixes" exist of One Of Our Own, Scandinavia, Smiler With Knife and Art-Hounds...

I wonder if the version of Art-Hounds is more like the first (and only) live rendition we heard?

 

[marred]

Re: TTY: The Bullfighter Dies / single

So "French Mixes" exist of One Of Our Own, Scandinavia, Smiler With Knife and Art-Hounds...

I wonder if the version of Art-Hounds is more like the first (and only) live rendition we heard?

What makes them French Mixes per se? The entire album was recorded in France wasn't it?

I'm just asking rhetorically because it's a strange definition. Plus, why French mixes of deluxe disc songs and Smiler With Knife?

In other news I never got a refund from that Swedish site for those 7 inch vinyls that were never to materialise.

 

[hand in glove]

The only thing missing from this thread is a cervix...
Only on here would an unreleased record discussion turn in to a gynaecological raft of adjectives.
Sigh.
FWD

Yep...

There's another forum that I recently started to visit (not Moz related) and I often find myself shocked at how well conversation flows there. People actually stay on topic and act civil towards one another...Wow! Imagine that!