Morrissey Central "Mexico City" - dengue infection will take 2-3 weeks to clear; tour to resume in Florida (September 10, 2023)

Looks like he caught Dengue Fever - all shows cancelled until Florida on 7 October. All South American dates cancelled.

MEXICO CITY - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - MEXICO CITY

MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY on MORRISSEY CENTRAL

www.morrisseycentral.com

Morrissey’s arrival in Mexico City has resulted in a dengue infection. The virus will take 2-3 weeks to clear.

The tour is set to resume in Florida.

Morrissey has not ‘cancelled’ any shows, but the infection makes the immediate two weeks impossible.

 

[Malarkey]

I did notice a little flurry of fan posts around 2008 that heavily implied he should be punished for cancelling so often. It was a bad idea imo. If it needs to fought out then promoters, venues etc are the ones to do it.

 

[notbuyingit]

No, it's not feasible. And the industry gossip would be rife.

look, face it, dude is a drunken grifter. you don't need to be an "industry insider" to know tours are insured. when dave grohl broke his leg falling off the stage, when their drummer died and they canceled the remaining south american dates, insurance paid the band. insurance also pays back the ticket holders. normal non grifter touring musicians have some respect for their fans and do their best to avoid cancellations except in extreme and actual cases of illness injury or death, but they have insurance for if something goes array so they don't lose money. often they actually DO reschedule. but moz doesn't. all those dates after his "i'm cold!!!" cancelation in LA- all cancelled due to vague unspecified "band illness"- none of them rescheduled, and insurance will have been the ones who paid for that, not moz, moz lost nothing. as he's lost nothing now with his fake dengue. he doesn't care that his fans lost travel and hotel expenses, he never has. how he manages to get any insurance is beyond me. "not feasible" malarkey. feasible. and done by this piece of shit, OVER AND OVER.

 

[Jorge Luis Vergas]

I did notice a little flurry of fan posts around 2008 that heavily implied he should be punished for cancelling so often. It was a bad idea imo. If it needs to fought out then promoters, venues etc are the ones to do it.

But promoters and venues do not lose money or go bust as you said.

The money accumulated from ticket sales could generate interest for a fixed period, in the case of South America it'll be around half a year.. an investment that offers a rate of return enough to make bills pay themselves and perhaps more?

 

[j*e*t]

I don't feel stupid. I just made conclusions

That's nice. To be fair, you don't seem stupid. However, I don't think I have enough information to be able to draw conclusions about this dengue message myself. Time might tell, but it hasn't yet. At this stage, it seems to me that the best thing is not to mind very much whatever Morrissey says or does. That's how I treat most people anyway!

 

[Malarkey]

But promoters and venues do not lose money or go bust as you said.

The money accumulated from ticket sales could generate interest for a fixed period, in the case of South America it'll be around half a year.. an investment that offers a rate of return enough to make bills pay themselves and perhaps more?

Money doesn't sit around in bank accounts.

 

[TheSmiths_1985]

Money doesn't sit around in bank accounts.

 

[Malarkey]

look, face it, dude is a drunken grifter. you don't need to be an "industry insider" to know tours are insured. when dave grohl broke his leg falling off the stage, when their drummer died and they canceled the remaining south american dates, insurance paid the band. insurance also pays back the ticket holders. normal non grifter touring musicians have some respect for their fans and do their best to avoid cancellations except in extreme and actual cases of illness injury or death, but they have insurance for if something goes array so they don't lose money. often they actually DO reschedule. but moz doesn't. all those dates after his "i'm cold!!!" cancelation in LA- all cancelled due to vague unspecified "band illness"- none of them rescheduled, and insurance will have been the ones who paid for that, not moz, moz lost nothing. as he's lost nothing now with his fake dengue. he doesn't care that his fans lost travel and hotel expenses, he never has. how he manages to get any insurance is beyond me. "not feasible" malarkey. feasible. and done by this piece of shit, OVER AND OVER.

What exactly is the grift here? How does he make money out of his fans losing money on hotels & flights & getting angry about it?

 

[notbuyingit]

What exactly is the grift here? How does he make money out of his fans losing money on hotels & flights & getting angry about it?

the grift is that he is getting paid for tour dates he cancels. why are you so dense? go ahead and google "musican tour insurance" and find out for yourself.

 

[Malarkey]

the grift is that he is getting paid for tour dates he cancels. why are you so dense? go ahead and google "musican tour insurance" and find out for yourself.

So, his grift is defrauding the insurance companies multiple times which they do nothing about?

 

[Anonymous]

So, his grift is defrauding the insurance companies multiple times which they do nothing about?

Another one never affected by Moz’s cancellations, and nor likely to be. But carry on, you’ve not got a clue about anything. Same old Malarkey mutterings.
Dengue in Mexico City Maybe he will pick up Malaria in Middlesbrough

 

[Malarkey]

Another one never affected by Moz’s cancellations, and nor likely to be. But carry on, you’ve not got a clue about anything. Same old Malarkey mutterings.
Dengue in Mexico City Maybe he will pick up Malaria in Middlesbrough

Aye, what's the insurance company muttering? As it pays out yet again?

 

[Muzz]

Money doesn't sit around in bank accounts.

No it doesn’t. The money taken in from hardworking fans for the tickets is probably going towards making more money for the giant corporations involved in putting on the shows. That’s why I’d try getting my money back as soon as possible.

 

[Lujan369]

But promoters and venues do not lose money or go bust as you said.

The money accumulated from ticket sales could generate interest for a fixed period, in the case of South America it'll be around half a year.. an investment that offers a rate of return enough to make bills pay themselves and perhaps more?

In my country Argentina there is an economic crisis and we have elections for a new president, those who are and those who were are a disaster. There is a lot of inflation. In my case and that of my compatriots who bought the tickets the oraganizadores have our money, and if we do not ask for the refund the money is trapped, generating interest, for them .. The issue is that if I do not ask for the refund, I have to wait for him to come, if he comes ok, but if he does not come to me with the devaluation that there is, they will return coins, I have the most expensive entry I do?. I am bothered by his attitude of indifference, if he is sick he can take out a statement where he explains something

 

[Lujan369]

And what bothers me most is that Argentina was the second country where tickets were sold out quickly, and M decides to give an exact date for Mexico and continues through the USA where he did not sell so many tickets. I hope soon some appearance of Morrissey, the disappointment is already structuring in my mind and my heart does not want to accept it

 

[Cristiano]

the grift is that he is getting paid for tour dates he cancels. why are you so dense? go ahead and google "musican tour insurance" and find out for yourself.

Well, if that is the case and if it is possible, then there’s the answer for everyone who thought it didn’t make sense to abandon 7 gigs, some of them sold out.

Why would he do it? Because he can and it wouldn’t cost him a penny. Just walk away claiming any illness and leave the tabs for the insurance company. For everyone else involved in the business it wouldn’t be a problem.

Except that I expect that someone would need to produce a proof of said illness. And with a cancellation rate of 20%-25%, insurance premium may be higher for Morrisey. A Morrissey premium. Still, perhaps possible.

Why care about fans, then? Such a nuisance.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

But wouldn’t the insurance company need a note from the doctor or something?

 

[Les Tameside]

Money doesn't sit around in bank accounts.

The default response of Team Morrissey is to release statements saying that cancelled gigs will be rescheduled, when we all know they won’t be. This means cash sits in ‘his’ bank account for a while, before it’s returned to fans—and without good reason. It’s an ethically questionable practice, and a well-known swizzle, as any socialist would tell you.

 

[Jesse James]

I think the three week silence on Central before the tour says it all. Morrissey had no interest in touring South America. The whole thing was probably organised to attract the attention of record companies and whether that failed or not the tour itself would have been a chore.

I think you are ready right . In The Smiths days I read he had no real interest in any place outside the UK , he liked visiting the USA as well but that was it
Ben Marshall toured with the Smiths he said johnny and the rest liked seeing places but Moz had no interest any place in the EU

As the years have gone on he has become more wordly but I honestly think the only reason he mentions mexico and South America is because he makes loads of money there .same with the LA Latinos
When the money dried up in the UK he leaned into the whole LA thing .
It's just business for him. I think now he is in his 60s he should just self release records and play in the UK. Then do gigs every couple of years in Paris, Italy
Israel NY and LA .
It really does seem like he is fed up with doing gigs at times and these days it seems like he doesn't even have proper friends in his band . My BF who is a long time Mozzer fan keeps saying he wished Moz would have taken time out after Dog and re planned things , band, music direction touring and the rest

 

[Jesse James]

Same. I think he should have a lighter touring schedule. The mini European and British tour went off without much of a hitch

I think he got what he wanted to show that he can still sell loads of tickets
Once he did that , he lost all interst

 

[gashonthenail]

But wouldn’t the insurance company need a note from the doctor or something?

Dr Malarkey can write the sick note for him.