You'll laugh, LH, but the things I eat have a far more detrimental effect on me than what I drink. Im only having vodka and soda. Its virtually like drinking water with a little alcohol as well. I have a single vodka with soda right to the top, and then I'm drinking water all the time in between days and eating fruit and veg. Yet, when I get the munchies and partake of the wrong foods, I feel like s**t. I'm 90% vegan, but when I partake of animal products, I'm so lacklustre.I still like them occasionally though. It would be interesting if a study was done on voracious meat eaters who don't drink or vape, against heavy drinkers who are vegan. The results might be surprising. I reckon meat could be the hidden killer. If you vape and drink but refrain from meat, I don't think you're doing yourself any more damage than being a teetotal carnivore. The lesson is, that everything is bad for you, but eating meat, makes everything else you do, like drinking or vaping, so much worse.