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SW: Morrissey is here. Now you know this is a thing because we saw each other, didn't we, about 5 or 6 years ago at a do and we were quite nice to each other, weren't we?
M: We were very nice to each other but I've seen you two times before that in Henley.
SW: Yeah?
M: I just passed you by. I thought if I tapped you on the shoulder you might be scared or something.
SW: I would be! (laughs)
M: Yes, I thought you might... Well you looked it, you looked it at the time, so... (laughs)
SW: What were you doing in Henley though?
M: Oh I have a fruit & veg shop there.
SW: Oh that's you there, with the fruit & veg! I've seen it, Morrissey's fruit & veg. (laughs)
So first of all, we had Nancy Sinatra in here and she was singing your praises and you were of course singing her praises big time, weren't you?
M: Yes, yes. I do have friends and they like me and Nancy's fantastic.
SW: Where did you meet her?
M: I met her a long time ago. She actually asked if she could meet me and I went to her hotel, in London, and we just became fantastic friends.
SW: And the material that you wrote for her, I noticed you both had the same single out at the same time.
M: It was released on the same day.
SW: How did that go?
M: It was planned that way.
SW: Really?
M: Yes.
SW: Why? What was the thinking behind that?
M: Well, I don't.... nothing really.... it was just amusing to have two songs, same song, same day, see what would happen.
SW: And what do you think DID happen?
M: Not a great deal in fact. (laughs) She entered at 46, I believe, and I entered at 8.
SW: Did you like her version more than yours?
M: Uh.... that's a very difficult question. Just as much as...
SW: Ok (laughs)
M: Just as much as.
SW: Yeah. Really good Glastonbury you did this year, if you don't mind me saying.
M: Well, I do, because I thought it was terrible.
SW: Why did you think it was terrible?
M: Cause it rained....
SW: Yeah....
M: And it was torrential. And it's very difficult to walk on a stage when the heavens have opened and everyone looks absolutely saturated. So it's difficult.
SW: But YOU gave a good performance. Do you not think?
M: Well, I never consider it to be a performance because it's just me really. But, you know, I try.
SW: Do you still enjoy performing as much as you ever did or....?
M: Performing.... SINGING. Singing on a stage.
SW: Yes.
M: Yes, I do, more so now.... that means more to me now than ever before. But I never view it as a performance, it's quite real for me.
SW: That's interesting. Why's it changing? Why does it mean more now than it did when you were in The Smiths or when you were starting out?
M: Because.... well because I actually really love to sing, but actually I'm not saying people like to listen to me but I really do love to sing.
SW: Well people do like to listen to you....
M: Well.....
SW: Do you sing around the house? Do you sing in the bath?
M: Oh yes, absolutely.
SW: What do you sing in the bath?
M: Absolutely....
SW: Everything? (laughs)
M: Just operatic. Everything, yes, yes.
SW: Are you happy with this iconic status that you have?
M: Well I think that word is thrown at virtually anybody these days, isn't it? Anybody who is known, is considered to be iconic.
SW: But in your case it's well deserved and it's true.
M: Yes, it is. (laughs) But when it's applied to people like Barbara Windsor, I'm not sure.... (everyone laughs)
SW: I think Barbara Windsor has written some good stuff!
Who is iconic in your eyes then would you say?
M: I think they've all passed over really. And I think that probably seals the whole iconic thing for me.
M: We were very nice to each other but I've seen you two times before that in Henley.
SW: Yeah?
M: I just passed you by. I thought if I tapped you on the shoulder you might be scared or something.
SW: I would be! (laughs)
M: Yes, I thought you might... Well you looked it, you looked it at the time, so... (laughs)
SW: What were you doing in Henley though?
M: Oh I have a fruit & veg shop there.
SW: Oh that's you there, with the fruit & veg! I've seen it, Morrissey's fruit & veg. (laughs)
So first of all, we had Nancy Sinatra in here and she was singing your praises and you were of course singing her praises big time, weren't you?
M: Yes, yes. I do have friends and they like me and Nancy's fantastic.
SW: Where did you meet her?
M: I met her a long time ago. She actually asked if she could meet me and I went to her hotel, in London, and we just became fantastic friends.
SW: And the material that you wrote for her, I noticed you both had the same single out at the same time.
M: It was released on the same day.
SW: How did that go?
M: It was planned that way.
SW: Really?
M: Yes.
SW: Why? What was the thinking behind that?
M: Well, I don't.... nothing really.... it was just amusing to have two songs, same song, same day, see what would happen.
SW: And what do you think DID happen?
M: Not a great deal in fact. (laughs) She entered at 46, I believe, and I entered at 8.
SW: Did you like her version more than yours?
M: Uh.... that's a very difficult question. Just as much as...
SW: Ok (laughs)
M: Just as much as.
SW: Yeah. Really good Glastonbury you did this year, if you don't mind me saying.
M: Well, I do, because I thought it was terrible.
SW: Why did you think it was terrible?
M: Cause it rained....
SW: Yeah....
M: And it was torrential. And it's very difficult to walk on a stage when the heavens have opened and everyone looks absolutely saturated. So it's difficult.
SW: But YOU gave a good performance. Do you not think?
M: Well, I never consider it to be a performance because it's just me really. But, you know, I try.
SW: Do you still enjoy performing as much as you ever did or....?
M: Performing.... SINGING. Singing on a stage.
SW: Yes.
M: Yes, I do, more so now.... that means more to me now than ever before. But I never view it as a performance, it's quite real for me.
SW: That's interesting. Why's it changing? Why does it mean more now than it did when you were in The Smiths or when you were starting out?
M: Because.... well because I actually really love to sing, but actually I'm not saying people like to listen to me but I really do love to sing.
SW: Well people do like to listen to you....
M: Well.....
SW: Do you sing around the house? Do you sing in the bath?
M: Oh yes, absolutely.
SW: What do you sing in the bath?
M: Absolutely....
SW: Everything? (laughs)
M: Just operatic. Everything, yes, yes.
SW: Are you happy with this iconic status that you have?
M: Well I think that word is thrown at virtually anybody these days, isn't it? Anybody who is known, is considered to be iconic.
SW: But in your case it's well deserved and it's true.
M: Yes, it is. (laughs) But when it's applied to people like Barbara Windsor, I'm not sure.... (everyone laughs)
SW: I think Barbara Windsor has written some good stuff!
Who is iconic in your eyes then would you say?
M: I think they've all passed over really. And I think that probably seals the whole iconic thing for me.