Poll I am not a dog on a chain - rated

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bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
Quarry was boring to me, this record is more fun musically
Agreed, everyone who trots out the boring old 'he hasn't written a great album since Quarry' can go glass themselves. Quarry while containing a couple of insane high points was very patchy and hasn't aged well at all.
 

From the left

Active Member
He is Morrissey so l will listen it again but it's not the kind of music i like. Even Coldplay is better.
For me it's far From High school. He must change of producer, put Real instruments in his music. High school is not his best but songs like my love, i wish, Jakie, In your lap, girl From, are really better than anything on dog.
"My love" is the worst song for me.Try to listen "Once i saw a river" the best for me.But each of us have different opinions and tastes.
 

Ketamine Sun

SCROLL & DESTROY
Listened once, really really enjoyed it.

The three songs released before the album make more sense and sound better as a part of the album.

It’s too bad the first two songs kind of end in the same way.

Seems for the first time Joe Chiccarelli
really found his place with this batch of songs, and I’m not really a fan of his productions. Though, I do find the way modern drums are mixed a bit fatiguing after a while. And the album may have benefited with some non drum songs as far as dynamics go in the overall arc of the album.


New direction in sound as far as electronics and the way his voice is handled, it surprisingly works very well.

Refreshing for a change. But where will he go from here?

I remember back in the day, first time hearing songs like ‘There is a place in hell’ and ‘I’ve changed my plea’ and thinking, well, he’s got to do an album of piano ballads someday, but, it still hasn’t arrived.

After first listen, I give it 8½, maybe a 9.

May change my mind after a second listen.

VIVA IANADOAC !!!


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Lustman

Active Member
Listened once, really really enjoyed it.

The three songs released before the album make more sense and sound better as a part of the album.

It’s too bad the first two songs kind of end in the same way.

Seems for the first time Joe Chiccarelli
really found his place with this batch of songs, and I’m not really a fan of his productions. Though, I do find the way modern drums are mixed a bit fatiguing after a while. And the album may have benefited with some non drum songs as far as dynamics go in the overall arc of the album.


New direction in sound as far as electronics and the way his voice is handled, it surprisingly works very well.

Refreshing for a change. But where will he go from here?

I remember back in the day, first time hearing songs like ‘There is a place in hell’ and ‘I’ve changed my plea’ and thinking, well, he’s got to do an album of piano ballads someday, but, it still hasn’t arrived.

After first listen, I give it 8½, maybe a 9.

May change my mind after a second listen.

VIVA IANADOAC !!!


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You're trully a fan 😀
 
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Anonymous

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Agreed, everyone who trots out the boring old 'he hasn't written a great album since Quarry' can go glass themselves. Quarry while containing a couple of insane high points was very patchy and hasn't aged well at all.
Yep, quite right. Quarry is the most disappointing album he's ever released (considering it was at the end of a 7 year gap) and is officially his second worst (after Southpaw Grammar). So many duff, bland songs and only two genuinely good ones. There was some excellent stuff on the b-sides of its singles though.
 

Ben Budd

Well-Known Member
OK, my run through the album quickly

Jim Jim Falls - a really good opener, a good song. Wonder where or what this mysterious Jim Jim Falls refers to. Can't say I am too keen on the kill yourself stuff, primarily as I think Moz is a more subtle writer than that
Love Is On It's Way Out - decent instrumentation and interesting production. The usual turn the song sideways for the second half tactic appears, a la if you don't like me..., and it's OK I suppose
Bobby, Don't You Think They Know - pretty emphatic, not a fan of the backing vocal to be honest. I can't help but laugh when Thelma bursts out with "YOU AIN'T FOOLIN NOBODY" like it's a fucking wrestling promo. Odd this was the lead single.
I Am Not A Dog On A Chain - pretty poor. Not an interesting tune and the lyrics are dreadful. It's like a cricket delivery that was supposed to be Vicar in a Tutu but he swung and missed. I wish there was someone in the camp who could tell Morrissey no one is interested in this
What Kind of People Like In These Houses - really good. I note it has a similar twang to Bullfighter, so i presume it's Jesse. Better wordplay, but can't help feel it's a reprise of Teenage Dad.
Knockabout World - love the instrumentation on this one. Completely different to everything else. However, follows the same patter as Love Is On..., with the second half of the song taking an unsubtle turn. Listened to it too many times as a single, kinda stands out as a bit weak on the album therefore.
Darling, I Hug a Pillow - decent enough but need to listen a few more times. I cannot tell you what the instruments sound like off the top of my head, indicating that unlike everything else on the album it's passed me by.
Once I Saw The River Clean - brilliant. Love the song, the production, the lyrics and the vocals. Reminiscent Morrissey is the best kind. Love the violin-style lead riff, the "HEY!" sample that pops up, the pulsing synths. Excellent Stretford references in the lyrics.
The Truth about Ruth - a bizarre song. Once again a piano-led ballad to ensure Gus gets a songwriting credit, and oh look Morrissey decides to tackle trans-issues. It's OK I suppose
The Secret of Music - I've tried to like it, but there's simply nothing there. An experimental bassline and drum beat and Morrissey listing instruments isn't my idea of an album's seven minute length track. Unless I am missing something, this is a swing and a miss too.
My Hurling Days are Done - yes! I really like this song. It's got that upbeat Moz vocal that when he does i love, see also Mountjoy, and the lyrics are quite clever. Don't like the Alfonso line, admittedly. However, the rising piano chords in the chorus are quite chilling, and the chilld choir backing vocal works.

All in all, I think I stick to my original rating. It's much better than Low In High School, not as good as World Peace.
 

NealCassidy

Well-Known Member
OK, my run through the album quickly

Jim Jim Falls - a really good opener, a good song. Wonder where or what this mysterious Jim Jim Falls refers to. Can't say I am too keen on the kill yourself stuff, primarily as I think Moz is a more subtle writer than that
Love Is On It's Way Out - decent instrumentation and interesting production. The usual turn the song sideways for the second half tactic appears, a la if you don't like me..., and it's OK I suppose
Bobby, Don't You Think They Know - pretty emphatic, not a fan of the backing vocal to be honest. I can't help but laugh when Thelma bursts out with "YOU AIN'T FOOLIN NOBODY" like it's a fucking wrestling promo. Odd this was the lead single.
I Am Not A Dog On A Chain - pretty poor. Not an interesting tune and the lyrics are dreadful. It's like a cricket delivery that was supposed to be Vicar in a Tutu but he swung and missed. I wish there was someone in the camp who could tell Morrissey no one is interested in this
What Kind of People Like In These Houses - really good. I note it has a similar twang to Bullfighter, so i presume it's Jesse. Better wordplay, but can't help feel it's a reprise of Teenage Dad.
Knockabout World - love the instrumentation on this one. Completely different to everything else. However, follows the same patter as Love Is On..., with the second half of the song taking an unsubtle turn. Listened to it too many times as a single, kinda stands out as a bit weak on the album therefore.
Darling, I Hug a Pillow - decent enough but need to listen a few more times. I cannot tell you what the instruments sound like off the top of my head, indicating that unlike everything else on the album it's passed me by.
Once I Saw The River Clean - brilliant. Love the song, the production, the lyrics and the vocals. Reminiscent Morrissey is the best kind. Love the violin-style lead riff, the "HEY!" sample that pops up, the pulsing synths. Excellent Stretford references in the lyrics.
The Truth about Ruth - a bizarre song. Once again a piano-led ballad to ensure Gus gets a songwriting credit, and oh look Morrissey decides to tackle trans-issues. It's OK I suppose
The Secret of Music - I've tried to like it, but there's simply nothing there. An experimental bassline and drum beat and Morrissey listing instruments isn't my idea of an album's seven minute length track. Unless I am missing something, this is a swing and a miss too.
My Hurling Days are Done - yes! I really like this song. It's got that upbeat Moz vocal that when he does i love, see also Mountjoy, and the lyrics are quite clever. Don't like the Alfonso line, admittedly. However, the rising piano chords in the chorus are quite chilling, and the chilld choir backing vocal works.

All in all, I think I stick to my original rating. It's much better than Low In High School, not as good as World Peace.
 

The Chameleon

#KingGamma
I gave it a 10 and the more I listen the more sure I am it deserves it. I like every song. The last solid releases in my opinion were Years of Refusal and You Are The Quarry and I think it's equal to those. The fact that you could even consider comparing it to his work from the late 80's/early 90's says it all.
I'm not saying it's better than those but maybe it can hold its own with Bona Drag?
My current favorite songs from it keep changing and that's a good thing. Right now it's Once I Saw The River Clean but The Truth About Ruth and The Secret Of Music are pretty great. And weird! Weird is good.
I can't rank them all yet because I've played the record about a dozen times but I still feel like I'm discovering it.
Someone said it's the best since Ringleader and for me it's easily better because even though that has some great songs it's got some that I would skip if I played it now and I never do.
I know I'm probably raving about it a little bit but it's so great to have a record where every song is good and interesting and some are great. And no one else could make this record.
I don't find it overproduced as some are saying. I think it depends on what kind of music you like. It's definitely a new style, though one we might have seen coming. I like the "80's" synth sound.
I'm not someone that likes everything he does. I have never listened to the last three records all the way through in one sitting. I have found a few songs I liked on them but this is a whole other class of record. To me as a longtime fan it feels like he's back and I hope this record will get the success it deserves.
 
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Anonymous

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I gave it a 10 and the more I listen the more sure I am it deserves it. I like every song. The last solid releases in my opinion were Years of Refusal and You Are The Quarry and I think it's equal to those. The fact that you could even consider comparing it to his work from the late 80's/early 90's says it all.
I'm not saying it's better than those but maybe it can hold its own with Bona Drag?
My current favorite songs from it keep changing and that's a good thing. Right now it's Once I Saw The River Clean but The Truth About Ruth and The Secret Of Music are pretty great. And weird! Weird is good.
I can't rank them all yet because I've played the record about a dozen times but I still feel like I'm discovering it.
Someone said it's the best since Ringleader and for me it's easily better because even though that has some great songs it's got some that I would skip if I played it now and I never do.
I know I'm probably raving about it a little bit but it's so great to have a record where every song is good and interesting and some are great. And no one else could make this record.
I don't find it overproduced as some are saying. I think it depends on what kind of music you like. It's definitely a new style, though one we might have seen coming. I like the "80's" synth sound.
I'm not someone that likes everything he does. I have never listened to the last three records all the way through in one sitting. I have found a few songs I liked on them but this is a whole other class of record. To me as a longtime fan it feels like he's back and I hope this record will get the success it deserves.
Nice review Chameleon. I'm thinking and hoping I will agree with you when I finally hear the whole thing (loved the first three 'singles'). Unfortunately, the album's commercial success will be completely hamstrung (here in the UK at least) by the total lack of radio support, especially by the BBC. It's the first time in 30 years that they haven't put a pre-album song of his on any of their playlists. Low in High School sold 25,000 in week 1 on the back of major airplay support for Spent the Day in Bed. This one may struggle to reach 10,000 which would pretty much rule out any future record deals (unless his support away from the UK holds up).
 

The Chameleon

#KingGamma
Nice review Chameleon. I'm thinking and hoping I will agree with you when I finally hear the whole thing (loved the first three 'singles'). Unfortunately, the album's commercial success will be completely hamstrung (here in the UK at least) by the total lack of radio support, especially by the BBC. It's the first time in 30 years that they haven't put a pre-album song of his on any of their playlists. Low in High School sold 25,000 in week 1 on the back of major airplay support for Spent the Day in Bed. This one may struggle to reach 10,000 which would pretty much rule out any future record deals (unless his support away from the UK holds up).
Everything is different right now too but it could actually work out in favor of entertainment you can "consume" at home. I don't blame you for waiting I kind of wish I'd heard it all at once. It seems like even the critics that hate him accidentally say something good about this one so it's too bad about radio.
 

Ben Budd

Well-Known Member
there's no accounting for taste, but giving this album a ten is mental. If this is a ten, what the fuck is queen is dead, your arsenal, vauxhall and i?
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
After several listening, i think as usual Morrissey Can make me eat everything. Not great but better than the first Time. This dulled production IS really a problem but songs grow slowly. I'm Waiting the lyrics to have a definitive opinion...
Lyrics here.
Regards,
FWD.
 
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