i would give my left leg to see a smiths reunion but i doubt it would ever happen.

come on.
Is anyone buying this, reliable source or not?

Anyway, although we'd all love to see Moz and Marr together again, I think some of the rabid excitement about a smiths reunion has worn off...for me at least.
Now that Moz has been playing his Smiths classics in quantity and with regularity...do we really care as much?
The Lads did quite a good job with HSIN, Shoplifters, TIALTNGO, Rubber Ring, and most of the rest from this past tour.
Only Headmaster Ritual came off consistantly a bit weak sounding.

Now, if they were talking about writing together again, that might be something to get rabid about...

Well, let the speculation begin.

I can see Morrissey and Marr, but if all four are there, we'll know straight away that Morrissey has completely lost his mind. Can you imagine? He and Mike wouldn't take their eyes off of each other for fear that one might kill the other! We'd all crack from tension!

Too bad they don't all get along. It would be a fascinating moment in music history.

Not another rumor. But if it's true, I'll be there.

So Smiths/Moz fans are buying these tickets, wothout any public confirmation? This is very weird.

they are both supposed to have solo commitments this year so why would this happen?

I can honestly say that it would not be the biggest surprise in the world if Morrissey and Johnny Marr appeared on the same stage together again at some point, however brief.
Anything is possible.
I would suggest that Mike Joyce drumming with them would be unthinkable.

The only way that Morrissey will 'bury the hatchet'.... would be in Joyces' head.

Tch Tch you Americans so excitable!
Let's just take some "Time Out" here (Note my cunning use of the transatlantic vernacular) and look at this thing for what it actually is.
I hate to piss all over your parade and that but this is nothing but another bullshit rumour. Believe me it ain't gonna happen.

and monkeys will fly out of my _____

My God, there is people that still believe in this shit. It really makes me laugh, me and Mr. Morrissey I´m sure.

it would be morrissey....without marr, joyce, and rourke. that's part of a reunion, right?

Actually, I'm surprised we had to wait three whole weeks into the year before the first bullshit Smiths reunion rumours started.

Now just watch them lap it up... again.

Johnny Marr, Andy Rourke, Mike Joyce...and Robert Smith!

I can't wait, it's going to be amazing!

I'm buying my tickets right now!

I don't know... can't really see them choosing a festival (doesn't Moz hate festivals?) in California as the venue for their reunion. Then again, everyone has a price, right?

The Smiths are rumoured to be headlining every major festival everrrrrr! I honestly don't remember the last time I saw news about a festival and didn't see something about The Smiths being rumoured.

Morrissey's said a million and one times that they will not get back together ever. Yes, he's been known to lie... er... stretch the truth a lot, but, look at how long he held out on the lawsuit just so those two wouldn't get his money! I think this is something he (understandably) feels strongly about, and I don't think Coachella will make him change his mind.

Plus, Coachella sucks sooooo hard!

BUT, all that being said, if it ends up being true, and tickets are still available, I'll be there. I just have a hard time believing that the Smiths would reunite at an American festival.

c'mon now, isn't that alone worth taking a chance.

it is to me. festivals are not my thing but i just bought a 2 day pass to coach hella and will celebrate my birthday in style if i end up getting to see Morrissey-Marr or anything that remotely resembles a Smiths reunion and yes, between that and the fooking heat, i too will fooking faint

say it like you love me now, coachella 2 day presale password is GOBI. what are you waiting for ???

i personally never want to see it happen. rourke and joyce are complete wankers who deserve not a single penny and marr and moz could have gotten any half as sed lad with a bass and drums to perform their parts probably better than they did. moz's backing band throughout his solo years BLOWS the smiths off the stage, and boz and alain have always been eminently more talented than johnny marr could ever hope to be.

Have you not read a single interview with Morrissey or Johnny Marr in the past 10 years?
You are surely aware that Morrissey, wrongly or rightly, utterly loathes Mike Joyce. You should also be aware that Johnny Marr hates Mike Joyce almost as much. Even the 'Smiths' musical due this summer has been described, by Morrissey, as a musical featuring the Morrissey/Marr songs. Were you not aware of the phenomenal commercial success of YRTQ which therefore removes any commercial interest that Morrissey might have otherwise had in reforming the band?
In posting these ridiculous rumours, you are exposing yourself as a complete and utter fool.
J

flying monkeys + my butt = you do the math.

I think it's valid. I think it will happen sans Joyce and here is why....
Moz has dropped the goodbye hints on his recent tour which could mean he wants to leave his solo career on a high and play a few shows for the money he deserves from the Smiths legacy. Before he retires. Moz has always been vocal, even written songs about getting off the stage when the time is right and not playing the geriatric rocker.

Rourke is in dire straits no doubt. He went so far as to sell his basses on E-Bay for some quick cash. It's no secret that Rourke danced with the H once upon a time. That is a drug that once divorced will always come back for some remember when sex. I am not saying Rourke is drinking or shooting himself up but he did sell his basses on E-Bay and we have seen the news about how he was broke at several points in his post-Smiths life. Please don't think I don't respect Rourke. He is am amazing bassist. Very rock solid and let's face it the guy is just cool. I would love to see Rourke playing with Moz again. Yes I love Moz's solo band (that part of this theory kills me).

Joyce can go to hell. Nuff said about that session drummer.

Marr. Marr is the one who really makes me find truth in this rumor. We heard him just 2 weeks ago or so on the BBC radio show dodging questions of the reunion. C'mon when have Moz or Marr EVER dodged that question. He almost confirmed it in the way he answered. Does anyone have a transcript of his respose to the question verbatim to share with us? Marr was the one who really set me off the first time with his answer. I felt then that this was a major possibility.

So adding all of this up I really do think there is credibility to this rumor this time. If the Smiths ever did reunite they would want to do it either at Glastonbury or Coachella so hearing the rumor was linking them to Coachella gave it another ounce of credibility in my mind. I do think that if they reunite MEN and Wembley have shows coming their way.

Personally I hope Moz continues solo but I think he should take a year or two and tour with Marr and Rourke. I can not see ever walking away from talent like Boz, Alain (who better come back) and Gary........

Just my gut feeling. Aren't they squishy?

Moz Is God

is what the rumour could mean. I'd rather have the Deano/Day battery any day, with Boz to conduct and Marr on lead. Johnny could play The Smiths' stuff note-perfect and if dear Alain is not coming back, could play Alain's songs (which are many miles better than anything Johnny's done post-Smiths)!

They're reforming in my back yard tomorrow as well....will that get a headline comment as well? Fucking grow up people!

this is like the twilight zone but in color.

I would just like to say I`m dead glad the images at the top of the site have been changed. They're all very attractive; especially the 1999 Moz with the mic cord segueing into the writing

But how did you get that picture of the infant Gordon Brown along with all those other young rapscallions? You can see the seething resentment and ambition even there....

This reunion is impossible. It will be a knife in my heart after all this years defending Morrissey as a solo artist.
Truly in my heart I hope not.
I will pray for that.

they anounce the FULL line up for coachella 05 on Monday 1/31/05...........lets see what happens.

I'm not sure how to respond to this news but one thing I'm certain of is we shouldn't dismiss this rumour.

It's easy to brush this aside as nonsense but this is Morrissey we're dealing with - a man as capable of surprise professional decisions as he is U-turns and side steps.

- The first big problem is obviously Andy and Mike. This does seem like one too big to overcome but the bad blood has mainly come from Morrissey in interviews over the past ten years, which he knows makes for entertaining reading. As with everything, we don't know the truth about Morrissey's personal standing with either Mike or Andy, or indeed Johnny.

- The legal issues were real, but now some time ago. I know that Mike Joyce was still pushing legally for settlement in 2002, especially at the Albert Hall gigs where there was apparently someone present trying to hand a writ to Morrissey from the crowd on Joyce's behalf, but that was 3 years ago. Anyone know what happened to the Moz-Joyce thing legally?

- It would make Morrissey and Johnny a fortune if they reformed. Even if it was only live appearances, they could charge massive sums and they are, Morrissey especially, financially minded. You can only imagine the contract negociations for getting the group to tour.... "So Andy, Mike, 10% of the Box Office okay?"

- Any reunion would mean an album wouldn't it? That would mean studio time together and no matter what the price I can't see that unless they had all completely kissed and made up.

- Anything is possible with Morrissey.

In short, who fucking knows? I'd say definately possible, even though it would be the same as finding Ian Curtis alive and well in Exeter cutting keys - completely unimaginable.

Bookie's odds? I'd say 30/1.

The other thing is, do we want it?

If, and I have considered this for some time, there was anything that defined David T's wonderful site, it was/is the extreme partisanship. I find this amusing and wouldn't change it for the world. Except for one reason. It is wrong. People not bold enough to decide it may be right to post a name, post with with anti-Rourke heroin comments, others bad mouth Joyce. This can be forgiven and adds to the spice of the site, which at times can be dullard and banal. But, no, there are superheroes amongst us, whose mouths know no bounds. Those who think Moz's career somehow happened with Viva Hate. Those who display an ignorance of thier ears. To deny Joyce, Rourke and Marr defies this sites existence. I go with Anon above who states that the bass line in the mighty, classic Barbarism Begins at home is a worthy mention. It is and it shall remain so. Flooded in funk, against Moz's sensiblities, in tune with Marr's is what makes that makes that track great. Moz is anything but constant, for silence does not interest him. He beavers on with great musicians. But he knows the best has past. Rourke. Joyce. And the spectre that looks down on all modern guitar - Marr. To pretend is to be foolish. Only his words save us against a backdrop of plodding chords and boredom soaked bass and drums. Moz is a genius. But he needed Rourke and Joyce more than you'll ever know.

This site gets more gullible by the day.

There's no way this will happen.

I wouldn't even want it to happen, considering how all the Smiths members hate each other now.

This is pure rubbish. Morrissey is releasing a DVD and then going back into the studio for a follow up to You Are The Quarry. Why would he even want to reunite with the Smiths? He wouldn't. He won't. It's not happening.

I just spotted Clownbait's name as the submitter of this story. Figures.

yeah right. I dont think so. I think this is the worst possible rumor and I doubt they would reunite for the sake of Coachella.
ILOVEKC

somebody who hates Morrissey and/or his fans is taking the piss.

picture it: s/he kicks back with a beer after work and periodically drops by to snigger at a bunch of us angry posters throwing dictionaries at each other. and one day... inspiration!

phone calls are made, sympathetic industry drones contacted and -- viola! -- the mother of all wind ups appears on Morrissey-Solo.

whoever you are: laugh on!

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January 22, 2005
putting my reputation on the line

My credibility is about to be shot.

Last year, I was passed information about The Pixies, The Cure, Radiohead, and various other act playing at Coachella 2004 before the line-up had been announced. This morning, the very same contact sent me information saying that Jay-Z/Lincoln Park, Garbage, Bjork, Prince, and The Smiths have been confirmed for Coachella 2005. I was skeptical of this information, but decided to post the information becuase he would know better than anyone else.

It seems that this year he decided to completely fuck with me. It seemed to be good to be true and well, it was. I got played. I got scammed. To put it simply, I got completely fucked with. Interestingly, it was on same day they redid their website, announced when the line-up would be announced, and gave information about when tickets would go onsale (presale password is Gobi).

As I had said, this same contact, who I have always trusted and has never lied to me before, decided to fuck with me and my readers. This is someone who would definitely know the line-up. This is someone who hasn't ever passed on any information that was false before.

So please excuse my prior post (I especially apologize to Ambitious-Outsider whose heart I know I just broke). It was all a cruel joke. An outragous fabrication. A mean and nasty trick. None of those acts are scheduled to play the festival. I was told Coldplay was booked but I ain't trusting that fool anymore.

Anyway, sorry.............
Posted by Jason at 12:09 AM permalink

I must point this out, as decidedly un-DD as it is.
Did anyone else notice the outrageous number of typos in the original post? Could anyone possibly think a "reliable source" (whatever the hell that is) would post something so important on a website full of grammar and spelling errors?
It was obvious from the first read that is was a wind up.
The only people who would even care and hope that it wasn't are people who are so much without anything better to do that they sit around and read websites about Morrissey. (Oh, wait, I just realised that I, uh...)

Nevermind.

DD

I just read that Kenny Rogers is writing some new material for Morrissey!!!

This is going to be recorded sometime at the beginning of April!

As soon as The Rabbit finds the link, he's/we're going to post it.

Yep.

I hope you believe this. Also, if you do, I've got some awesome swampland for sale, what a deal it is, I've got to tell you about it. Send me a mail.

DD

For the love of Christ, people...shut the fuck up already about The Smiths reforming. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!

Who are the smiths? Oh yeah, thats right... I remember some songs they did 20 YEARS AGO!
Let the past sleep... Morrissey has "0" interest to revisit the past for his eyes are on the future. Johnny Marr loves his autonomy and it shows. His music w/Neil Finn embraces his emancipation from The Smiths. Personally, I feel a reunion would taint their image some ;o)

Morrissey has tons of cash...

If this refers to Morrissey and Marr working together again, then i think it could more than likely happen. The Smiths original line-up will NEVER work together again, but if you had Moz and Johnny confirmed to play on stage together, what would you as a promoter do?

You would call it the Smiths, it only makes sense, but even if this rumour is true it will only be Moz and Marr (which I have consistantly predicted for about 4 years now).

I dont know about this festival or in what week, month or year, but I will eat my hat if those two do not work together again in some form or another.

not enough.....maybe they met his match.

All the europeans are pissed it wont be happening on their soil.

To Bad, So Sad.

Signed,
Insider

I know I am going to get a lot of resistance to this comment, but hear me out!

WHAT IF they opened with, say, "There is a Light," and in the closing/feedback transition to "The Queen is Dead" they trot out Michael Bolton to sing the intro to the song ("Take me back to . . .") and then march him off to a standing ovation.

THAT would make headlines! It might also spark a potentially DYNAMIC collaboration between Moz/Marr/Bolton. Can you imagine the guitar lines that Marr could write for some of Bolton's songs if they decided to treat the crowd with a Few?

Like I said, I am sure there will be resistance. But I say that talented people inspire each other, and there may be no greater vocal talent than Michael Bolton.

"insider info" for Earls Court! This is NOT going to happen! I honestly think morrissey has too much taste to re-use the name "The Smiths" and, as he said in a previous interview, if he and Marr were to reform it would be as "Morrissey and Marr" as in "Sonny and Bono" "Simon and Garfunkel."

I wouldn't rule out Morrissey and Marr getting back together at some point - perhaps this is where the rumours are originating. Maybe that's also why Marr recently ducked questions on working with Moz again. With Whyte seemingly out of the picture, the stage is set. But they won't go by the name of the Smiths - not even the thought of spiting Joyce and excluding him from the gravy train could drive Morrissey to destroy that particular legacy!

Could somebody please "yousendit" Public Image and Slum Mums? I cannot buy them as nowhere sells CD2s.

Mr Smith has arranged to meet his estranged wife, Mrs smith and take her to coachella

lincoln park is in chicago.

they must mean 'linkin park' the group, another reason why this post is soooooo lame..
ooooooo!!! i hate bad spellllllling.....