NME has revealed its top 50 albums of the noughties, as voted for by 'leading lights in the music industry', and it doesn't contain any album by Morrissey. The full list can be viewed here:
NME's Top 50 Albums Of The Past Decade - Sky News
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A Disgrace (Score:1)
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not suprised (Score:0)
quarry is probbably the best offering
ringleader was a bit shite
and Years is good, but not worthy of top 50
Shit rag NME (Score:1)
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Some decent choices (Score:2, Insightful)
Bright Eyes they got right and Ryan Adams is great, but wrong album, it's 2000's 'Heartbreaker' all the way.
They must be slapping themselves on the back that they managed to put together a list without one of the most culturally defining artists of the last quarter century, just because he fell out with their rag. YATQ deserves to be on there for marking Morrissey's comeback to the big time and giving us two anthems in IBEH and FOTGTD. It also had some cracking B-sides.
But, if they're talking about influential albums that changed the face of noughties music (and not always for the better) then they have them here and Morrissey shouldn't really be up there, as he hasn't changed anything in the cultural landscape this decade.
But he doesn't need to, he's in a class of his own, whilst most of the people on this list are re-ploughing the furrow he dug 25 years ago. Let's face it, half of the bands and artists there wouldn't exist if it weren't for The Smiths.
They shouldn't put Morrissey on the list, they should credit him with its existence.
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it's all about the quality control (Score:0)
The songs are superb but some of the music isn't quite up to those high standards and there are 3 or 4 bad songs on each record.
Still, nothing changes. It's all a part of his charm.
For those who doubt it, just think of this album of songs with some more experimental music and production:
You Know I Couldn't Last - perfect as it is
Dea God Please Help Me - see above
FOTGTD - a harder, livelier, californian sound a la live version
Good in Your Time - perfect as it is
Far Off Places - could have done with a genuinely heavy feel and some hired in blues guitar, maybe a swamp rock sound a la second coming by the roses and some heavy, grinding loops counter-balanced with the kitch arabic sounds
Arms Around Paris - glam it up with t rex guitars and strings
Spoke to Carole - perfect
It's Not Your Birthday - emptier, more haunting sound
Come Back To Camden - just imagine this with a nice dream by radiohead feel. Blissful, real grand piano with voice and then rising strings and synth effects
Something is Squeezing - let the new york dolls play guitar on this one
Mama - perfect as it is
You Have Killed Me - should be a little longer
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Another meaningless list. (Score:1)
Grunge, and its impostors dominated the 90's scene, and it forced other artists to try their hand at the sound, or get tossed aside.
Unfortunately, the grunge trend gave us Southpaw Grammar, and Maladjusted as well. Many groups who weren't indulging in that sound were getting cut left and right, and it seems that this was Morrissey's way of trying to remain relevant.
However, any list that does not innclude Your Arsenal, or V&I on it, is a list that isn't even worth reading. Of course, lists like this one are generally meaningless in the first place, but they often allow people to know what was occurring during that time.
Your Arsenal, and V&I are two of the most original, and certainly two of the best albums of the 90's. They stood out against what was mostly morose, tuneless, sludge rock that had little to say, or bored strum-jams for bleeding hearts. It was the last decade where the music industry and the mainstream media had full control over cultural trends. Either you liked what the media gave you, or you had to struggle to uncover what others were doing.
In retrospect, and in terms of quality, V&I was Morrissey's last gasp. It would have been a great way to go out.
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Re:clueless fuck strikes again (Score:2, Insightful)
Morrissey was always reactionary to what was going on in the music scene. The Smiths were reactionary with their jangly guitars when everyone else goofed around on sythesizers.
Moz as a solo artist truly came out with Kill Uncle and subsequently the tour of rockabilly musicians when grunge was the sound du jour.
Morrissey released Vauxhall and I during the time of rah-rah Britpop and droning acid house music.
Morrissey is reactionary now in the sense that he is perhaps louder and prouder than what the music intelligensia think a man his age and relevance should be. He is defining the "aging artist" just as he did as a young man who defined what is was to be the "frontman" of a pop band.
Then, just when you are braced to have your ears blown off, he can just as easily break your heart with a great ballad.
Yeah, he's that good.
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Re:90's music was dull, and self-absorbed. (Score:2, Insightful)
There is no attempt at revisionist history on my part, or on Morrissey's; the man was there; he documented what happened in the SG booklet. It's there for everyone to see.
Morrissey chooses to work with musicians that share his musical tastes and influences. Boz and Alain are his musical and generational peers, so their earlier musical influences like glam or prog-rock are more apparent in the work, rather than any attempt to sound current or trendy. Even the looping of the Shostakovich piece in Teachers had more to do with Syd Barret than Eddie Vedder. In Morrissey's mind, "grunge" was nothing more than a bunch of hippies playing punk; he admitted that much in the '95 Q interview.
You conveniently left out Teachers, the Operation, and Southpaw and dismissed it as "filler". Those songs were collaborative, deliberate, and essential to the theme and artistic success of Southpaw Grammar. The album was meant for the musicians to flex some musical muscle. If those three songs were “filler“, then at 28:10 minutes total, that's the longest recorded attempt at "filler" in the history of recorded music!
You consider Southpaw Grammar to be a failure. On a commercial and critical level it was; critics are and still too hung up on Morrissey’s work with the Smiths to appreciate the musical merits and neither UK or US record companies promoted the album because they had no intention of renewing Morrissey's contract.
On an artistic level, Morrissey achieved what he set out to do. He must have felt strongly enough of the merits of the album that he felt it deserved a second release. Morrissey is wise enough to know that to a different generation, it all sound new.
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no franz ferdinand (Score:0)
Anything that starts with...... (Score:0)
clearly still smarting from the law suits, the loss of readership and public lambasting of its staff and editor.
In a list of quality British music magazines since 1990 it wouldn't make the top 100.
releaved (Score:1)
Is here a band or artist in that list who had released something past century?
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Babyshambles? You're kidding me, right? (Score:1)
Maybe if Morrissey gets filmed shooting "H" he can make the list next decade.
Urggh.
Ken.
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The top 50 albums of (Score:0)
I also bought Young MC but that was released in 1989. Primal Scream Vanishing Point Happy Mondays debut LP The Horrors and A Tribe Called Quest
My point is: Who gives a fuck what the NME's favourite albums of any era are? Personal music choice is extremely subjective. I don't need some spotty oik telling me what I should get
BB
Live Squid. (Score:2, Funny)
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Best albums (Score:1)
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Who cares about this stupid list? (Score:0)
so we're surprised? (Score:1)
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The best (Score:1)
The first Strokes album was arguably the best, but the others they released were average. The first Kings Of Leon album was also brilliant, but the others they put out were possibly the worst of the decade. In fact I don't think I have ever been so disappointed by the path of a band as I have been with the Kings Of Leon.
I think Arcade Fire have been the other stand out band.
My top seven of the decade: -
1. Is This It? - The Strokes
2. The Libertines - The Libertines
3. Chinese Democracy - Guns N' Roses
4. You Are The Quarry - Morrissey
5. Youth & Young Manhood - Kings Of Leon
6. Up The Bracket - The Libertines
7. Funeral - Arcade Fire
There were many albums that had moments, such as the debut from Franz Ferdinand, but I don't feel I want to expand this list as I think these are pretty much essential.
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Shite list! No 'Quarry'.... (Score:0)
No Morrissey (Score:1)
I cant believe people still buy this rubbish!!!
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Don't diss the spaceman (Score:0)
top 50 taste? (Score:1)
sorry about the gendered and carnivorous quote, but it sums up the taste issue quite well. these lists generate an excessive level of hatred and acerbic damnation. It's always disputed that the albums included shoudn't be, and the ones omitted have been greatly overlooked.
Take solace in the fact that Morrissey is more usually included at the top of the more important 'greatest influence' polls, rather than some disposable NME sales generating roster.
cheers
wendy
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Re:Of course not! (Score:0)
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Re:Of course not! (Score:1)
And as for "Nobody cares anymore" well I beg to differ, there's the people who buy his records, attend his gigs and write about him, frequently. He's also in the media quite often these days. Plenty care, even if you don't.
And in reality, you do care don't you? I mean you're here, posting on his fan site. You cared enough to visit and took time to post, how sweet of you.
You're also very hung up on Morrissey's appearance, are you sure there's not a naked man, standing laughing in your dreams and that you know who it is, but you don't like what it means?
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Re:Of course not! (Score:1)
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