Ahhh, no Top 10 placement, although trying to convince people into buying even more copies and additional downloads, merely for the charts! Send me your pillow, the one that you puke on, har, har!!!!!

First to comment.... well, I was expecting a higher placing, the song is very fun to dance and sing to...those killer lines in the chorus...gawd! am I the only one who thinks grow up is a marvelous gem?

Anyone else find their 7" singles noticeably jumping?

Hopefully it's just my stylus otherwise an awkward conversation with Mr HMV will have to ensue.

Beaten by a seal clubbing Canadian band...ahhh the irony!

Spending that £6.57 on the combined packaged from recordstore.co.uk must count as three purchases surely???!!!

But will it go any higher?

What a list...God!!! Wet, Wet, Wet & Nickelback?

Well, it's another top 20 hit but it would be nicer in the top ten. I bet the CD doesn't hit the top 5 on the album chart in the UK and won't place in the top 100 in the US. I still can't believe there are no tracks off of YA. Crazy....
thetexasbloke

Not bad for a frankly quite generic song, and bonusless CD. I still bought it ofcourse being the devoted moz fan that I am. But I think it's pretty acceptable considering the calibur of the record. I'm hoping Morrissey does some better stuff, I think I prefer "All you need is me" - it has a lot of humour and wit in it.

But to be honest, the main problem for me with morrissey at the moment is his band! Stop playing so heavy and create some better melodies...

Gone off subject? much

Just noticed that HMV have the single as highest new entry in their singles chart.Wonder if elsewhere has enough copies and this might explain its low entry in the uk top 40.

Morrissey is the most rated #1 in the world. Right-the Grammys-unbelievable. They call this entertainment. I guess Amy Winehouse still being in rehab is-maybe.
Anyways, THPGU is #14, that’s really really good. So ... you’re convoluted concoctions that, that THPGU was garbage-you have been proved wrong. It’s validated now. It’s #14. And it’s insured.
As Cher said on the Grammy’s “I know a star when I see one”, - well but I don’t agree with her with who is a star. You see, the one born 5/22/1959 is a star. You were wrong Cher and all of you anti-THPGU-ers. Getting to #14 with all these daunting, pathetic reviews by “fans”-14 is pretty damn good number. And you, you can’t do nothing about it. Haaaaa. You vicious little liars-you knew THPGU was brilliant, inspirational and beautiful-but because, because you are jealous of Morrissey-because you are just jealous-you soiled it. You know jack.
Morrissey himself and all of his “new” songs are better than The Smiths. Strapping.
THPGU is just the beginning. To all of you who are jealous of THPGU - one question - what grade are you in ...
You have been proved wrong-is that clear.
I need a good stiff drink now.
And the drummer who must be killed ...

P.S. I want to say high to Cashews.

I don't know how the music charts are thought of in the UK, but do they actually mean anything anymore?

it's not like the old days where you have a handful of radio stations and they all played the exact same thing. There were only a handful of records to choose from because there weren't many labels and it was an expensive process that normal people couldn't engage in.

now, there are tons of bands who have their own CD. the songs that "chart" on the mainstream do so because they can get played on three different radio formats. The tejano, country, and gospel station won't touch 'em, but the adult contemporary, the dance club, and the "alternative" station might.

Let's be honest in saying that a chart position only means something to people in the industry. It's their bragging right to one another about how their artist did. I don't think the mortals really care if Amy Winehouse is sitting at number five or number 305 this week. some people may eventually get piqued enough to actually go buy the thing now that it's been around for an eternity, however...

in this case, they aim to get the thing to chart as well as it can without even bothering with staying power. it's like everyone, including Morrissey, has given up on the notion of longevity, when what really sells an album (not the single, the entire album) is when those songs are ubiquitious weeks later.

maybe Moz understands the problem with seeking longevity since I don't think any of his songs are known for that on the radio. They have the other sort of staying power where they fall off within a week or two, but people eventually figure out that they're classics like Everyday is Like Sunday or How Soon is Now.

Other than that, I think his complaints are merely fodder so he can complain about "shabby treatment" by the industry. I think Moz might actually wither if he did hit that home run and have a song that sat on the chart for 5 weeks in a row. What could he complain about then? that it didn't stay there for 10 weeks?

It's probably why the guy ducks out at inopportune times. He's behaving...for now...because it's a new label just like he did with Sanctuary at the beginning. But what I'm afraid of is that he's going to think that the fact that he "only" reached the spot he did is going to lead to needless acrimony when there is only so much you can do with a Greatest Hits album.

I think this being #14 is actually real impressive. I actually do like this song and think it is deserving of a high ranking and is better than the dredge above it in this list.
But the one point I’d make is this song has been out there for 6 or so months for people to hear at concerts and to listen to and download from you tube. It is being compared in some cases to songs being heard and made available for the first time by artists who aren’t touring at the moment or have just ended their tour or ones who are touring but hadn’t played their “new” song or maybe don’t get the video recordings that Morrissey does. I’ve not researched this but I’d wager a number of the ones above Morrissey fit this description. Such as Britney Spears who if someone does want to have that song, they have to buy it, either in the stores or by download. And if they then hate it, having heard it for the 1st time, they’ve already made the purchase. Morrissey has given people that opportunity to judge it beforehand.
I think if Morrissey was releasing this new so to speak, it probably would be a top 10 song. And yes maybe some do buy it because they heard it but a lot of people don’t if they can hear it or get it on a download for free or just don’t bother because they don’t like it.
No way to know the impact of this for sure and obviously the top sellers are what they are but this being the case I think this is pretty impressive that the song is as high as it is. And I too can’t wait to hear more songs and this new album because I think Morrissey is still writing at a high level.

it's a great song...if you like plodding, middle of the road dad-rock with weak lyrics. oh, so very quotable, i don't think.

Have a look at this one.
http://www.mymarilyn.blogspot.com

Morrissey not the flavour of the month

Johnny TARONJA

I bought "Hand in Glove" on the day it came out.

And have bought all the singles on the day they came out since.

But not this one...

that's how this person grew up...

...it's such a crap song!

That's How People Throw Up

is my entire life consumed by talking to thick pakis in call centres? twaaaaaatttttssss!!!

When is morrissey going to take some risks?? The opening howling is as risky as it gets the rest is just absolute bog standard formula morrissey these days and has been for the last decade. think alma matters, dagenham dave, boy racer, then compare to november, the more you ignore me. come on moz!! sort it out

Once upon a time when singles were selling like millions of copies (50's, 60's, 70's 80's) to get to number 14 would have meant a long climb up the charts, say starting at number 70 or so, and week by week going up a few places, and the result would be that by the time your record reached 14 it had sold a huge amount of copies. Then the music biz got completely up it's own arse (late 70's and introduced 12", Cassettes singles, various different collect them all and make us richer formats)...and yes it worked (but people did start to feel ripped off). Now we have CD's downloads etc, and still things are released in more than one version, and the press and marketing has got completely out of control, and a new release is plugged for months sometimes before it's released (Beatles records were not played until the day they came out, so there was real excitment about waiting to get it/hear it!!) and yet sales have dropped so badly that to reach 14 in a week, would require less than 10 thousand sales, possiblly on a quiet week (Jan/Feb/March) even less than 6 thousand. So i would not be surprised at all to find Decca are already unhappy with the chart placing, esspecially when all 4 Quarry singles charted top 10. I know the charts mean sod all these days, but record companys don't think like the rest of us normal people. You have to be seen to be looking successful, and that means being in the charts. When Morrissey is without a contract again, anyone who is not buying the records, who moans he should be signed, i will hunt you down and kick your arses! And don't moan the song isn't good enough to buy, because it bloody well is. It's far better than loads of his previous singles.

Something is Squeezing My Skull

Where is that twat Russell Brand? Admittedly I only watched it on youtube for 1 min and 30 secs as the song is pretty dire and the video is another Arse and all effort

I just picked up a copy of the CD from the Virgin Megastore. HMV in Leicester city centre was completely sold out of copies of Thats's How People Grow Up, (a fact that hardly reflects the #14 chart position,) but had many copies all of the other new released singles.

all things considered.

Everybody has an opinion and whether you like or dislike this song, the one thing that is overwhelmingly evident is that far too many Morrissey fans are giving it the thumbs down.

Personally I think the rot was setting in on the Ringleader record and tour, where 70% of the album was not good enough and the live sets could always have been better for those of us who had seen Morrissey on previous tours. He seems to have developed a stubbornness and determination to not just piss off the people who hate him, but the people who like him. Solo was continually filled with negative comments about his set lists on the Ringleader tour, but Morrissey persisted to the end of it. One gig in particular, Saturday night at Manchester Apollo, not a large venue and therefore perfect for him to produce a frenzied performance. But no, it was slow, the crowd was quiet and the concert was amongst the most subdued I have ever watched, a truly bizarre non-event. Saturday night in Manchester should have been legendary.

It was not that Morrissey could not do it, it was because he did not want to do it. The next week in Liverpool had a better set list, although still not fantastic, and it was a better show. I was looking at the set lists on Solo all the way up to the shows I had tickets for and I was reading the complaints and I was convinced he would change things, take out a few slower numbers and insert a few with faster pace

There were December shows in the UK after the Summer tour, but I did not go, convinced that it would be more of the same. Now we are seeing a greatest hits that nobody wants, featuring a collection of songs that nobody agrees with and including small selection of new tracks that people are, at best, finding it hard to say anything good about.

Morrissey needs a rethink. He changed direction after 'Vauxhall' and, although I thought he should create another album with the feel of the brilliant 'Vauxhall', I thought the follow up, 'Southpaw', was a masterpiece. He needs to do something similar now because 'Ringleader' was largely lifeless and the new tracks are inspiring a minority, hence the chart position.

He is becoming a sleeping giant and although he is still fantastic live, the amount of new songs included in the live sets mean the live shows are not of the standard they were.

'Quarry' was great, a triumphant return, but, everything since has been mediocre. The old fan base is there, the new fan base is there, the legendary status is there and a return to top form is achievable. Morrissey just has to want it.

What do you think Morrissey would say if you took this song back to 1986, changed the vocal pitch just enough so it sounded like someone else, and asked him what he thought of the song?

I would bet he'd call the lyrics quite dreadful, and say he really quite doesn't like the melody...or lack there-of...quite.

What do you think???

i listened to the chart on my way to gatwick,and let me tell you theres not much else in it worth spending your money on, be interesting to see how the album does, yeah, we,d like a new one , but we would all happily spend a tenner on a live bootleg of poorer quality , im happy. i think, for now.

there is no hope of morrissey turning the corner and singing something thrilling and/or edgy.

morrissey is the new phil collins for the indie generation. Sad but true.

broken

Either J Marr needs to start writing for Morrissey again or ring up Vini - he said he'd work with M again on the "Jewel in the Crown" doc. Another "Late Night, Maudlin Street"? Yes, please. Vini would challenge Morrissey, which is exactly what he needs. Either that or get Bernard Butler.

1 the band

Morrissey's band added some new verve and youthful exuberance when - and this is key - they were actually *young.* Now they are middle aged and, unlike morrissey, they think and behave middle aged. The inspiration and drive to create great music has gone and they are now comfortable enough to plod on by, with minimal inspiration, churning out the same old formulaic music. Fire them all. Hire Bernard Butler or, better still, John Squire and get someone oblique to produce the next record. Bin it and start again.

2 morrissey's ego.

Morrissey is now so far removed from ordinary people and their concerns, he doesn't care for public opinion or critical acclaim. He's surrounded by obsequious people who pander to his narcissism.

3 loss of insight

morrissey has been behaving erratically and showing a distinct lack of self-awareness and irony in recent years, Remember the cringe-worthy 'apology' to dame Elton over JObriath and being a crashing bore? Remember his crass comments about politics and reincarnation? Remember his drab monologue about immigration in NME? And to make matters worse, the appalling loss of dignity his apology resulted in - nullifying years' worth of dignified silence after Finsbury Park in one move.

4 morrissey's body odour

has anyone else noticed his armpits tend to pong a bit?

5 freeyourself's absence from this site

morrissey used to feel much better knowing there was a person in this cruel world with less going for him than moz. FYS, moz misses your ludicrous 'dirty jeans' photographs of you posing on your floor with kylie records and allowing your skid mark-stained pants to smell during live shows. FYS is sorely missed.

6 morrissey is becoming increasingly odd

morrissey now looks perceptibly odd and shows a loss of social skills. This poses many problems.

broken

great song, but one thing I can't help thinking when I hear it is.........I've got a fever....and the only cure is MORE COWBELL!

Just putting together a suitable suit for valentines day..
Can't choose between the law firm or hallmark.

lol

Your ever fafeful cuzin I

locked up for saying so

I will if you will

Sadly, I probably will, whereas millionaires dont.

Such is those who have much more to loose.

This is so wonderful. #14. That’s How People Grow Up is such a great hit. The words excite me and the music just carries me along. How can this not be higher. It deserves to be higher. This song is wonderful and I can’t wait to hear it on me radio. Why isn’t this song doing better. It’s because his so called fans have let him down. How dare you people not rush out and purchase this single. What’s more important, pushing up this single or your coke habit? Why do you think the government still keeps you on the dole, so you can use your handout to buy this album. You don’t need more food, most of you are already too fat - use that money to go and buy this.

Go knock off a liquor store and use the money to buy this CD, what’s a little jail time mean if it helps out Morrissey and a lot of you are always there anyway and some of you probably still are, you demented criminals. Bring along Morrissey’s ass picture so you can stare at when your cellmate Big Derrick orders you to bend over and you bellow in glee while he relieves himself in your anus.

What is wrong with you people? make this album get to the top - go steal your mum’s jewelry again and use it on this album and yes if you have any left over you can replenish your liquor stock.

Morrissey needs your help. he needs your support, he needs you to come through for him. Actually considering how useless and worthless you roaring valueless unemployed drug addicted whores are, maybe he should be fortunate this CD isn’t at #114.

So yeah come to think of it, nevermind, disregard this - resume telling your problems to the bottom of your liquor bottles while you knock yourselves out like Heath Ledger with your never ending supplies of Valium and sleeping pills from your incompetent money grubbing shrink. They don’t care about you, they just care about your money, you fucking bitches.

Way to go charting higher than Soulja Boy!