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davidt
on Friday May 04 2007, @10:00AM
Posted by Maurice E in the forums:
Marr on Moz in new Mojo Big interview with Marr in the new Mojo. Lots of Smithsy discussion (quelle surprise!). Marr says he’s not financially in the position to turn down the huge offers that Smiths were made last year to reform. Asked about getting back with Moz, he seems open to something at some point but claims that Moz keeps ‘slagging him off’. I was surprised at this. From what I’ve read, Moz has always been very positive about Marr (he only appears disgruntled about Marr for giving up without a fight in the court case). Even thanked Marr when he got his Ivor Novello a few years ago and has said recently that Marr has never been replaced. It always seemed the other way round to me with Marr frequently criticising (or refusing to comment on) Moz’s solo work, albeit in an oblique way. Recently said he would choose Ian Curtis over Morrissey.
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No Marr (Score:0)
Marr is washed up. Why pay a guy who can't play well anymore? Anything Marr has touched lately has turned
to poop. Morrissey knows better than to reunite with this has-been.
Maurice E issues a disclaimer! (Score:1, Informative)
Don't really mind but would have got some proper quotes in there if I knew it was going in as a news article.
Had another look at lunchtime. Marr does sound really quite negative about Moz in this piece although vaguey claims that he'd like to be friends. Marr explains why he turned down Joyce's request to play with him and Rourke at MEN arena, also rubbishes the court case and the way Joyce portrayed himself (innocent guy and against the two 'ogres').
Marr moans about the Cilla Black song and having to effectively be the band manager at the end.
He also states how he thinks the Smiths would have sounded if they'd kept going (couple of duff albums, another great one etc).
Jounralist observes Marr's defensive body language (arms crossed etc) when talk turns to Moz and Marr implies that many others would react the same way.
So a mixed piece. A lot of negativity towards Moz
but some vague grounds for optimism.
Hopefully someone will buy Mojo and scan this in so you won't have to rely on my sketchy memory.
Maurice
better luck next time chap (Score:0)
DOn't be cheap (Score:0)
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A bit of pop psychology (Score:1)
If Morrissey values a friendship I think (but I may be projecting my own experiences here) that he's loyal unto death, yet this can become a stifling experience; he will use that person as a sounding post for every idea, and as a crutch for every problem. If they should do something of which he doesn't approve he will then feel utterly betrayed, even when the friend may not have intended any harm.
Marr, on the other hand is much more philosophical; he's the type who can easily forgive (even if he doesn't forget) and thus mentioning the past isn't a spiteful act on his part, it's just a memory that exists in answer to a question.
Above all, what Marr desires out of life is the opportunity to do what he wants, when he feels like it and this comes across as flippancy and callousness to a person like Moz. What Morrissey wants out of life is the opportunity to prepare for different scenarios and achieve praise and love, this comes across as dictatorial and disfunctional to a person like Marr.
However, it's odd that the more extrovert of the two should maintain a position forever in the background, whilst the eternal awkward schoolboy becomes one of the most revered frontmen in pop history. Why is it that the most insecure people end up in the public eye?
The one thing that broke this partnership was the inabilty of both men to see things from the other's point of view; they might be very different in many respects, but they are both as stubborn as mules once they've found a project. Morrissey won't reform The Smiths because it would be a huge psychological step backwards on his part; he's spent 20 odd years getting over it. Marr is much more practical; he needs the money. That's not to say it means nothing to him though, he just doesn't express his feelings very well. To put my waffling into simpler terms, Marr is sense, whilst Morrissey is all sensibility.
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Van Halen (Score:0)
Who cares about Mike? (Score:1)
My question to you is: would a Moz/Marr/Rourke reunion, sans Joyce, be any less of a reunion in your mind? I wouldn't in my mind, and I'm even a drummer! Just food for thought...
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stifling ? (Score:0)
Look now, 10 years later and they are all
running back, cap-in-hand, begging for mercy.
Dry my eyes.
Sigh... (Score:1)
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The Swallowneck Deliberation (Score:0)
Why does he long for these tracks? Well, he'd like a big fat slice of Johnny Marr's guitar playing to soothe away the pent up frustration in his gut!
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personally (Score:1)
and for a million reasons
it's all just got too much..i mean they were loved but never exposed to the degree they deserved
and now we are surrounded by ner do well peasants heralded as genius before they have a single out..who then promptly are replaced within a few months....
so, obviously THE SMITHS have become the talismanic unreformed combo...
and i don't care what y'all say..a part of both of them wants to say "yes"
and as a fan i'm the same..
for a million reasons
(User #15269 Info)
Tony Visconti was on Jools Holland BBC2 TV... (Score:1)
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Morrissey is a prissy queen stuck in adolescents (Score:0)
Morrissey has publically called Marr E.T.; has slagged his career output outside of The Smiths; has claimed hat they never really liked each other, and yet Marr is the one who seems to have an issue with Morrissey? Seriously, anyone who believes that will probably believe anything.
Marr even sent Morrissey a positive post card about his first solo effort when it came out.
Morrissey, by all accounts form The Smiths era, was the one who made decisions in the band difficult, and forced Marr to abandon the role of Moz nanny. Any human being who aspires to proper mental health would have done the same thing under similar circumstances.
Moz/Marr Porn (Score:0)
Yes 2 Marr!! (Score:0)
Is Marr Broke? (Score:0)
Re:Is Marr Broke? (Score:2, Informative)
"That is absolutely true. For 3 shows. The guy who made the offer discussed it with my manager and the offer was put to Morrisseys manager, but it wasn't discussed between the band members. I'm not rich enough to turn that money down, but to do it for the money would be wrong. So that's a kind of a conundrum and a non-conundrum."
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Marr wants to make up says Q (Score:0)
After reading most of these posts (Score:1)
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Lets see... (Score:0)
Marr wins.
Money will bring them together (Score:0)
Their older and less inspired too.
Let's hope anyway, someday it'll happen.
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Moz without Marr (Score:0)
is like cereal without milk.
Morrissey - You Have Killed Me (Attack/Sanctuary) (Score:0)
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Morrissey - You Have Killed Me (Attack/Sanctuary)
Lawrence Poole
2/ 3/2006
STREWN casually across a railway line with a typically knowing smirk about to break across his face, the track's cover shot ironically seems to find Mozza in rude health.
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A brilliant song, decent tune with, as per usual, witty and intelligient lyrics. Not really good for a single, a bit too subtle, but nonetheless a very good song.
Craig Scott, Aberdeen
3/03/2006 at 22:24
it is without a doubt a song that grows on you, wasnt sure at first and cant stop singing it now.
jo, lincoln
3/03/2006 at 18:03
Devis, Italy
3/03/2006 at 16:42
The opening line is brilliant, the chorus is catch and very typically Morrissey, but the last couple of bars are a disappointment lyrically. However, I am looking forward to the album and seeing him live. I have been a Morrissey fan since 1983.
Julie Grant, Newcastle upon Tyne
3/03/2006 at 14:46
While catchy after a few listens, this first single from Moz is lyrically thin and musically wanting. With any luck, the new album from this once-truly great artist will not disappoint.
Stenoef, USA
3/03/2006 at 03:34
Not the most immediate of singles, but having heard a couple of other tracks off the new album, I'm sure there are better to come.
John, Manchester
2/03/2006 at 21:48
not enough lyrics from the greatest lyrisist of all time!
dave l., wigan
2/03/2006 at 19:24
I like his new song, the guitar is a little to heavy but morrissey has a good way of singing with diffrent tunes.
Marco Padilla, San Diego
2/03/2006 at 18:37
Mind bendingly catchy: a track which after 3 or 4 listens takes its place in the hall of great Morrissey singles.
Ben, Cambridge
2/03/2006 at 18:27
Someone please kill FreeYourself on the 2006 tour.
Cheers!!
Nothing Entered Me, UK
2/03/2006 at 18:08
The Greatest (Score:1)
I thought the article in MOJO was excellent. Who here could turn down $5m. Its not a question of Marr being skint but making the atmoshere right for the envitable to happen.
I will be there at every show and deep in your heart you will be to.
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Say What You Want About Marr... (Score:0)
Actually, to mention Tobias and Marr in the same sentence is insulting to Johnny.
There's no way Moz continues a successful career (up until ROTT anyway) if Jesse Tobias is his main man and collaborates with him.
Jesse's songwriting ability is beyond amateurish and shockingly bad.
25 years ago in history (Score:1)
Just to show how keen is keen... Or was.
The Observer is also doing an article. History doesn't seem to repeat itself as often as journalists do.
Anyway, here it is:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,20
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The Smiths reunion would be embarassing (Score:0)
Morrissey will N E V E R do it.
only in it for the money? (Score:1)
it is one thing to get money but a totally different thing to play songs together that meant EVERYTHING to them.
but i'd be glad if they would reunite. if marr and morrissey think that it'll work, than something very good will come out of it. no doubt. even if they would record new songs and will release them. when they are willing to release them they have to be good!
and the positive thing: morrissey can stop playing smith-songs at his own concerts. that'll make room for his own songs from his own catalogue... "seaside yet still docked" or something like that...
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perfect idea for Johnny and Moz (Score:0)
Just have a regular Moz gig, no hints, no leaks, no obvious vulnerabilities in security/confidentiality, and then just bring Johnny in for ONE song, maybe something like How Soon Is Now? or The Queen Is Dead, as a guest guitarist!
The crowd would go WILD, Johnny could leave after that song (maybe it could be the encore or something), and everyone could a)see the crowd's reaction to maybe be able to tentatively plan future events, and b)it wouldn't be considered a 'reunion' or have the pressure or tension of one...
Yay!!! DO IT MOZZER!!!