posted by davidt on Thursday June 01 2006, @11:00AM
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MORRISSEY: 'SUICIDE IS ART'

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British rocker MORRISSEY considered suicide "many times" because he saw the devastating act as "an art form".
The HOW SOON IS NOW? star claims many of his artistic heroes have killed themselves, and this inspired his morbid outlook.
He says, "It occurred to me that most of the people in the arts that I ever admired always came to that conclusion about their own lives.
"I considered it to be something of an art form and to be a very respectful decision about having maximum control.
"I never considered it to be cowardly or running away or giving up.
"I considered it to be a very admirable thing to do, a very difficult thing to do, a very brave thing to do."
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  • Talk about taking something out of context!

    Moz wasn't promoting suicide or saying he had a "morbid outlook", he was just making a comment in response to a question!

    Sheesh, journalists really DO know how to twist things, eh?

    No. 6
    Anonymous -- Thursday June 01 2006, @11:16AM (#222640)
  • AND, Moz said he'd never really come close, and they're printing that he considered it?!?

    How misleading!

    Jesus Christ.
    Anonymous -- Thursday June 01 2006, @11:18AM (#222642)
  • I am really losing ALL hope with this website. I believe Morrissey said these things in the Observer interview when he was questioned about depression.
    This article comes across as if Morrissey is condoning suicide!
    Yes, he might have said these things within the interview but I really really hate the fact that Morrissey-Solo is publishing this as a "news" article.
    This is totally out of context.
    Utter crap!
    shoplifter71 -- Thursday June 01 2006, @11:45AM (#222651)
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  • Putting these things on the website is pathetic. You are not doing yourself or Morrissey any favours.
    You must have read the original interview and you must know (maybe not?) that these quotes are completely out of the interview context?
    Why put this in your website? Fans have read the interview anyway.
    Please reply.
    shoplifter71 -- Thursday June 01 2006, @11:51AM (#222654)
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  • I have loved Moz since 1984. I am a depressive and feel suicide is also ...ummm... artistic in some ways. I am a frustrated artist. But I have chosen for now not to do myself in. Please respect Moz for his comments on this subject -- he is totally correct.
    Anonymous -- Thursday June 01 2006, @03:29PM (#222695)
  • Tut . . (Score:2, Insightful)

    It seems quite odd to suggest that anyone would commit suicide because they saw it as an art form. I think that by the time such a stage is reached, one cares very little whether or not one looks aesthetic in dangling from the light fitting.
    Poppycocteau -- Thursday June 01 2006, @04:40PM (#222696)
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    We are ugly but we have the music
    • Re:Tut . . by M-in-Oz (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @12:51AM
    • Re:Tut . . by boredhousewife (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @01:39AM
      • Re:Tut . . by kissmyshades (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @08:29AM
      • Re:Tut . . by Poppycocteau (Score:1) Saturday June 03 2006, @05:01AM
  • You whining "fans" calling out David T are idiots. David reports anything written about Morrissey whether it's good or not. We've all read that article & know it was taken out of context. Maybe the hate should be directed to the person who wrote that article, not David. Or if you feel this way about Moz Solo, why do you come here????????/
    Anonymous -- Thursday June 01 2006, @06:06PM (#222707)
  • Suicide as an art form?

    Meat is murder but killing one's self is an expression of artistic ideas?

    Anyone who has ever had anyone close to them commit suicide, who has cleaned up the mess (physically, financially, emotionally), who has commiserated with a grieving mother at a funeral would not describe suicide as art.

    An act of desperation, an act of self-mercy, an act borne of mental illness, certainly, but not an artistic expression.

    I have no problem with anyone checking out of this mortal coil of their own volition, but I cannot think of any instance in which it would be an expression of art. How does one get to be a suicide artist? Practice? What measure of artistic talent or grace is applied? Or does he simply mean one can make a point with one's suicide? Making a point and art are not the same thing.

    Take Jacques-Louis David's "Death of Socrates". That painting may be art (though an unrealistic and romanticised version of it). Its creation by a Jacobin just before the French Revolution. Its technique and its symbolism of republicanism all make it art. Socrates actual death might have been a statement of principal or an acceptance of a guilty sentence; a depressive episode or an act of self-pity. Art it was not.

    I'm tired of Morrissey romanticising death. Gangs are not glamourous, murders are not fascinating, suicide is not art. As a theme, death worked reasonably well in "Suffer Little Children" and "There is a light", but the Krays, Hector, tooled-up asian boys, the youngest (and most loved), pupils, sleeping lifeguards, poultry farmers, lighthouse keepers or anyone else that spills death in his wake scarely has my interest because they are cartoonish versions of murderers.

    My rant for the night.
    Mmmmmm -- Thursday June 01 2006, @07:13PM (#222713)
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  • If anyone is feeling suicidal or just needs to talk to someone, Samaritans is always there to listen 24:7

    08457 90 90 90 in the UK
    or 1850 60 90 90 in the Republic of Ireland

    hope this helps
    Anonymous -- Friday June 02 2006, @12:32AM (#222735)
  • As ever, the media decides to portray Morrissey in just the way they like to see him. "Is he still miserable? Oh, look, he's talking about suicide! Let's use that."

    Tedious wankers, the lot of them.

    Although I must say, I do agree with what Morrissey said about suicide. Just my ha'pporth.
    Helvissa -- Friday June 02 2006, @03:05AM (#222752)
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  • Morrissey's comments on suicide, which stretch back over more than two decades, are utter codswallop - I'm not just talking about his recent "out of context" quotes. People who take their own lives are not making an artistic statements, okay? As for being in control - quite the reverse.

    When Bert Cocaine topped himeself 12 years ago, Morrissey said that it was tragic - he didn't say, "I think his latest performance was his most explosive. Fantastic! Much better than 'Nevermind'"
    kissmyshades -- Friday June 02 2006, @08:22AM (#222802)
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    • Re:Ignorant by Mmmmmm (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @12:38PM
    • Ignor rant... by wit2wit (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @04:44PM
      • Re:Ignor rant... by kissmyshades (Score:1) Sunday June 04 2006, @03:38AM
      • G-typo by kissmyshades (Score:1) Sunday June 04 2006, @03:41AM
  • There is nothing artistic, uplifting, brave or
    wonderful about suicice.
    It is a treacherous, horrendous affront to family and loved ones.
    I don't think this article should have been on this page at all.
    mauve21 -- Friday June 02 2006, @09:11AM (#222811)
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  • I liked the old ascetic Morrissey better (the celibate, vegetarian, sober, drug-loathing, peace-loving, anti-suicide Moz). This decadent, suicide-promoting (but still vegetarian) Morrissey is starting to wear on me.
    everdene -- Friday June 02 2006, @10:12AM (#222820)
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    • Bla! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday June 02 2006, @10:37AM
      • Re:Bla! by everdene (Score:1) Friday June 02 2006, @11:53AM
        • Re:Bla! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday June 02 2006, @12:24PM
          • Re:Bla! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday June 02 2006, @01:34PM
            • Re:Bla! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday June 02 2006, @01:44PM
      • Re:Bla! by everdene (Score:1) Saturday June 03 2006, @12:18PM
  • I think Morrissey's irresponsible promotion of suicide is reprehensible. Especially in view of the fact that HIS fans 1. put greater stock in his words than the average pop singer and 2. are statistically are more susceptible to depression than other fans.
    Anonymous -- Friday June 02 2006, @10:33AM (#222822)
  • 1) Meat is murder. Fur...well...it is not neccessary is it.
    2) Animal testing is bad.
    3) To kill oneself is great.
    Granvik -- Friday June 02 2006, @11:38AM (#222830)
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  • I've seen my share of death in the past 10 years and I don't care to see any more. I quote thee; "you silly old man, you're making a fool of yourself, so get off the stage!"

    Anonymous -- Friday June 02 2006, @01:58PM (#222870)
  • Seriously this is not such a simple issue. It's true that the rate of suicide amongst people who've been innovative in public expression seems to be higher. If you think about it, Jesus was a suicide. We're all going to die, we're drops in the ocean, life is but a moment. Judging anyone's decision to kill themselves as bad is probably selfish; we don't like to imagine how someone we know could feel so finished with life, they who are/were like us in some way. It's a mysterious thing, and thinking about it may encourage us all at least to be a bit kinder to eachother. Why not stick around for the show?!

    As for Morrissey, a couple of times recently he was widely quoted for his obvious concern about Pete Doherty, and the latter's apparent steps down the road of Sid Vicious. How come his songs deliver so much consolation, and 'save lives'? Maybe because he can verbalise, amongst much else, the state of a mind in turmoil, and when heard by someone who's sad, the feeling of being understood helps? Really this article has misrepresented him.
    goinghome -- Friday June 02 2006, @03:06PM (#222882)
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  • Morrissey has spoken more than once in the past about his views on suicide. This tells me nothing I didn't already know. I can honestly say I've thought about ending it many times, but i think so do most people. It's the doing it that takes the major balls. You have to respect anybody who has the guts to end their own lifes.

    Just My Opinion.
    Anonymous -- Saturday June 03 2006, @05:28AM (#222977)
  • The press love (or hate?) Morrissey because he is one of the few artists - the only artist? - left who has something to say and is vocal about his opinions. He is a meal ticket for the press if you like because some of his views are seen as "controversial" and therefore print-worthy. The problems arise when his quotes are taken out of context. Who knows what his exact views are in the end of the day.
    Anonymous -- Saturday June 03 2006, @09:14AM (#222993)


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