posted by davidt on Tuesday April 11 2006, @11:00AM
Zelda writes:
It's not just David Cameron anymore...! See today's Guardian article (11/04/06) "How on earth can the Tories like Morrissey?"

Excerpt:

Morrissey. There's a name you wouldn't expect to hear uttered by a Conservative, unless it was preceded by "The 80s pop star who most deserves flogging for his treasonously anti-Tory outbursts is . . ." Yet Tory bigwigs have been coming not to bury the quiffy moaner but to praise him.

David Cameron has already revealed himself as a Smiths fan and now Matthew d'Ancona, editor of the Spectator, has one-upped the Conservative leader by being photographed in the Observer with a copy of the new Morrissey album, Ringleader of the Tormentors. The CD is casually propped up on his desk and he even boasts that he has downloaded the album on to his equally casually displayed iPod. It's an over-egged tableau that says, "I'm hip, daddy-o."
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  • Perhaps in the same way that Hitler loved animals, or Ted Bundy worked for the Samaritans.

    At the risk of sounding like Professor Dumbledore, these are dark times; the right is taking advantage of the fact that there's no left. But the left is good enough for the Devil, it's good enough for Morrissey, and it's sure as hell good enough for me.

    You can't polish a turd, no matter how much clever marketing you employ, and the Tory's will always be one heck of a pile of elephant dung.

    I know they're led by a man with a funny name, but please people (unless Gordon Brown and the anti-Blair camp are heading Labour) vote Lib Dem.
    Mozzersgirl -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @12:29PM (#210846)
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    • Re:Let's see by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday April 11 2006, @01:07PM
    • Well... (Score:2, Informative)

      Morrissey has fans who come from literally all parts of the political spectrum.

      Google the far right racist white nationalist website, Stormfront [google.com] (warning - this is a racist website) and you'll find a lot of white nationalists are Morrissey fans. The debates tend to go along the following lines. Some like the music. Some like the skinhead iconography, and Bengali in Platforms etc. Others hate Morrissey because he appears to be gay. Some more progressive (!) racist Morrissey fans are prepared to forgive his apparent sexuality and regard it as a private failing. No doubt, other racists are gay - it is possible, you know.

      Now, as far as the Tories under Cameron are concerned, the party has seen an enormous shift towards social liberalism. Cameron himself is in the middle of a vicious battle with the United Kingdom Independence Party, which he condemned as a racist party. They are threatening to sue him.

      Of course, the Tories contain their fair share of reactionaries and bigots, as indeed does the Labour Party. It ran a campaign last year demonising "asylum seekers". It is regarded by many voters as the only party that can be "trusted" on immigration. It supported until recently the maintaining of the anti-gay "Section 28". But Cameron's great strategy has been to drop that image, and reach out to the floating middle class voters who don't regard themselves as socially conservative by and large, and whose support is essential - they believe - if they are to win elections. So, that is what Cameron is doing.

      I should add that I also know a fair number of Tory activists. Most are basically economic liberals see socially liberalism as a philosophical counterpart of that stance. They also are typical 30-somethings who have friends from a wide variety of middle class backgrounds, which in Britain means that they will have friends who are asian, or gay, or - to a lesser extent - black. They will also demographically be likely to include a fair few Smiths fans.

      In fact, a couple of months ago, I took a mate who is a member of David Cameron's shadow cabinet to see The Smyths.

      I should add, to cover myself, that I would never vote Conservative, because I never have. And I'm not lying.
      David T (different) -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @02:02PM (#210874)
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  • Blair turned Labour Tory and Cameron is turning the Tories into Labour!
    Aly Panic -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @12:32PM (#210847)
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  • ...because we never have.

    Nuff said!
    Wilde is on my side -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @01:10PM (#210856)
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    I am the meek, I am the righteous, I am the Morrissey fan.
  • They’re politicians, which ultimately means no body actually believes a word they say anyway.
    The Riddler -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @02:15PM (#210879)
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  • he'd be turning over in his grave
    veradicere -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @06:30PM (#210925)
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  • ...and have been a huge Smiths/Morrissey fan for a lil' over 10 years. I am an independent conservative as I do not favor any particular party.
    fuckfase -- Tuesday April 11 2006, @06:38PM (#210927)
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  • Coincidentally, I've just written up a draft article on The Politics of Morrissey for a left-wing magazine - see below. Any feedback/ideas are very welcome. Cheers, Bryce
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    In these times of mass disaffection for politicians and their wars, it’s surprising that there isn’t more anti-establishment music being produced. Our most successful musicians shun politics as being simply unfashionable. Furthermore, most artists are just plain boring, with nothing to say about our lives. In such a climate, English pop star Morrissey – who also claims to be “not political” – seems almost revolutionary. A study of his political principles – and his new album Ringleader of the Tormentors – shows him to somewhat all over the place, yet never boring.

    In terms of politics, Morrissey is best known for his animal rights stances, most famously releasing an album in 1985 with his former band, the Smiths, called Meat is Murder. Even today he still supports militant and violent action on behalf of what he sees as the victims of cruelty, such as foxes, seals, and laboratory animals. But it would be a mistake to pigeonhole Morrissey simply as a middle-class vegetarian softy. Morrissey has always been resolutely working-class, and although obviously now a millionaire with a bourgeois lifestyle, he rejects the usual pop star lifestyle and orientation in favour of a punk ethic. And although he might be seen as part of the elite, he continues his role as the chronicler of the downtrodden and is therefore seen as a true “proletarian hero” to many of his fans

    Morrissey’s politics have never been entirely clear or obviously thought out. At times he has expressed the sentiment that he is a socialist, and in one mid-1990s interview he even flippantly claimed to “long for communism”. Certainly he is renowned as being fiercely anti-establishment and clearly republican. Part of this probably comes from his background growing up in an Irish immigrant family in the northern English city of Manchester. Throughout the 1980s he supported the IRA, wrote songs such as A Rush and a Push and the Land is Our, applauded IRA bombings such as the “unfortunately unsuccessful” attempt to blow up the British Conservative Government at their annual party conference in Brighton, sung the wishful-thinking anti-Thatcher song Margaret on the Guillotine and released an album called The Queen is Dead.

    More recent songs reflect his hatred of the Establishment. His last album, You Are the Quarry – which was his biggest selling ever (with or without his former band, the Smiths) – contained brilliant songs such as America is Not the World (“America your head’s too big, because America, your belly’s too big”) and Mexico which defended that country against its big neighbour (“I could sense the hate of the lone star state”) and the highlighted the position of the poor in the country (“It seems if you’re rich and you’re white, you’ll be alright”). More impressive was his biggest selling hit, Irish Blood, English Heart, which contains the lyric “I’ve been dreaming of time when the English are sick to death of Labour and Tories, and spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell.” Such a line is typical of an English artist who is just as staunchly opposed to the Labour Party as he is to the Conservatives. Few interviews occur these days when Morrissey doesn’t vent his anger about Tony Blair – for example, stating that he would return to watching soccer if the players started booting Blair’s head around instead of a football. So at a time when Billy Bragg is still telling people to vote for Labour and plays benefits in the US for the Democrats, it’s good to see some political pop stars wishing a plague on both their houses.

    When Ronald Regan recently died, Morrissey announced the news live on stage to fans, adding that it was pity it wasn’t George W Bush’s death. He was subsequently hauled in and interrogated by both the FBI and British Intelligence. Such events have pushed Morrissey to state “neither England or America are democratic societies.”
    Anonymous -- Wednesday April 12 2006, @12:49AM (#210949)
  • Britain's finest comedy minds can toil away all they like, the Conservative Party time and time again prove that they are the funniest people in Britain without even trying. God bless them.
    charming lass -- Wednesday April 12 2006, @04:27AM (#210992)
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    this is the last song i will ever sing, oh no i've changed my mind again
  • Does it matter what your political stance is? It's bloody good music as simple as that!
    greatbarrmozfan -- Wednesday April 12 2006, @09:45AM (#211084)
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