posted by davidt on Saturday October 29 2005, @10:00AM
Mondo Oltro writes:
hello to all. i'm part of the team behind Mondo Oltro and i've been directed to this site by someone who linked your news item on our old post re: Morrissey at the Sphinx.

if anything, i'm a little surprised that all this discussion started but no-one even thought about sending us an email (it's very visible on the URL you linked!) asking for clarification over the things we wrote. babelfish is not to be trusted so much;-)

firstly, let me say that Mondo Oltro is not a fansite or a fanzine, it is a gossip blog much in the style of Gawker. we'd like to be like Popbitch, eh:)
secondly, we like to use irony, and possibly humour, in many of the things we post. this is the case with a few posts regarding Morrissey. not all of them, but a few (shall explain further on).

so. in the specific case of Morrissey, he is as you all know recording in Roma. since he's been first seen in the center of the city buying books, the spottings have multiplied and people wrote us saying he had been seen here and there and everywhere, even when it was obvious that he couldn't have (the same night he was supposed to be at the Isle of Wight Festival he was spotted in that same bookstore? COME ON!). so what we did was writing completely over-the-top items, very humorous, very funny, so as to signal to our readers to give it a break. thus once we "spotted" Morrissey but in truth it was an Italian comedian who doesn't even look like him (Gene Gnocchi, someone has linked a picture), another time he was buying 50 or more copies of the same children book, and another we made him speak perfect italian or better still: perfect Roman jargon. all the above was posted over the arc of a month. it was sort of like our summer game. then we stopped because, well, it was getting boring!
also i would like to say that these were obvious pieces of humour, Italian readers all got it (well of course... and it's understandable that a translation from Altavista wouldn't:)

then at the end of August real spottings started to trickle in again. Morrissey was seen backstage at the Elton John show at the Colosseo, then he was seen several times in an area of Rome near the Olympic Stadium, which we didn't believe at the time but then turned out to be the same neighborhood where the recording studio for his new album is. so i guess it was true, uh?

now back to the episode in the subject of this message -
the spotting is verified but the person who originally wrote to one of the members of Mondo Oltro doesn't want to have anything to do with it anymore, doesn't want for their name (i myself don't know if it's a he or a she) to be known. he fears legal action, certainly not from the owners of the bar but from the famous 70-year old writer, who by the way writes a column daily on one of the country best selling newspapers, he's very well considered and blah de blah.

as far as the Sphinx goes - it's a joint so blatantly extravagant and over the top for the Roman scene that it's been a destination for certain kinds of tourists (well, not families with children). so it's very possible that Morrissey was brought there to be shown such a venue. just as he was brought weeks later to a danceclub (but he was refused entry when he himself refused to write his details on the club's member card).

i hope this offers some kind of explanation.
all i can say is: please don't use babelfish! ;-)
best,
chiara
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  • I was a bit bemused at the fuss kicked up over the original story. It seemed believable enough to me, and seeing as this this explanation reveals the joint to be just something of a curiosity in Rome, it's probably quite likely that Moz fancied having a peek. If it's a slightly homo-erotic place, all the better, everyone knows he loves things that are slightly risque.

    I'd still be interested to know who the 'famous author' is though. Imagine Morrissey's disappointment if he himself was a fan of this mysterious writer and got a reaction of weary disinterest from him, as apparently he did.

    I love the story about not being allowed into the club for refusing to fill out his details. He's so difficult, you've gotta love him. He'll never shift an inch will he?!

    Stan <[email protected]> -- Saturday October 29 2005, @11:46AM (#183443)
    (User #9752 Info | http://www.stanleymchale.merseyblogs.co.uk/)
  • OK, THIRD outing for this story, which quite frankly is an utterly, utterly boring one.
    News on the album is what I want. No offence to David, who can't make news on the album appear, but this is the most banal and now overspun story to appear on this site for a long while.

    Please, no more 'news' relating to this matter!
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 29 2005, @12:05PM (#183444)
  • For clearing that all up, but you really shouldn't be surprised by the hysteria it created...this is morrissey-solo! ;D

    We all like a little bit of gossip occasionally, the only time you need to worry is when people actually take the stories as being factual.

    I think everyone knew it was 98% likely to be a lie.
    Though the book store sighting could be true, since he didn't play the Isle Of Wight Festival, not that i'm still upset about that or anything. Ahem. I may comb my hair in to an emo-swooshyfringe & cry a singular tear now.
    Keely -- Saturday October 29 2005, @12:06PM (#183445)
    (User #13344 Info)
    • Re:Thanks by Hello Indie (Score:1) Tuesday November 01 2005, @06:37AM
  • To avoid jumping to conclusions and getting hysterical over silly gossipy stories in future?

    And that means those on both sides of the argument. Why can't we all accept that we really know nothing about Morrissey's private life and leave it at that?

    Let's all stop trying to claim him for our own and just let him be himself.
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 29 2005, @12:22PM (#183448)
  • Morrissey didn't play the Isle of Wight festival, so actually, he could have been in Rome while the festival was going on.
    suzanne -- Saturday October 29 2005, @12:57PM (#183453)
    (User #36 Info)
    I scare dead people.
  • This loathsome character Tseng has, in the past, posted rumours to the effect that Morrissey is a liar and a thief who swindled his road crew out of money that he allegedly "owed" them.
    Tseng also displayed scurrilous posts which suggested Morrissey has AIDS, and other posts claiming Alain White is suffering from schizophrenia.
    Now he has attempted to "Out" Morrissey, knowing full well that the salacious gossip he posts on this site is given credence, and considered true by many, simply because it appears on this site.
    Tseng is a nasty, bitter little man, hated by Morrissey and detested by those who find his snide stories to be both distasteful and disrespectful.
    This site is a disgrace and should be closed down.
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 29 2005, @02:52PM (#183462)
    • For shame! by Stan (Score:1) Saturday October 29 2005, @04:20PM
      • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @07:41AM
        • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @07:50AM
          • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @03:39PM
        • Re:For shame! by elvisfontenot (Score:1) Sunday October 30 2005, @11:39AM
        • Re:For shame! by Stan (Score:1) Sunday October 30 2005, @04:12PM
          • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @05:23PM
            • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday October 31 2005, @12:16AM
              • Seriously by Lucas (Score:1) Monday October 31 2005, @10:33AM
              • Re:For shame! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday October 31 2005, @01:48PM
  • Now I don't know what to believe! A 'real' sighting of Morrissey backstage at an Elton John gig?! Perhaps Moz was looking for the opportune moment to retrieve his head.
    amysquie -- Saturday October 29 2005, @03:16PM (#183464)
    (User #12405 Info | http://www.livejournal.com/users/amysquie)
  • man, you like to talk.
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 29 2005, @03:46PM (#183471)
    • Re:dang. by Terrace Dandy (Score:1) Saturday October 29 2005, @04:00PM
  • spotted in a gay bar?

    That's a surprise!

    I wonder what's next? A fish, spotted in the ocean?
    Eric Hartman -- Sunday October 30 2005, @07:39AM (#183524)
    (User #5103 Info | http://www.patcondell.net/)
    It is a very mixed blessing to be brought back from the dead.
    • Re:Morrissey.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @10:33AM
  • I didn't even bother to read most of these comments that apparently got some people so worked up about but..

    Morrissey's sexuality is such a tired topic.. and whether or not he was in a "gay bar" certainly shouldn't be any indication one way or the other of who he chooses to sleep with.

    If you are living in the modern world in or at least somewhat near a metropolitan city or even a television you would know that simply going to a "gay bar" doesn't automatically mean you are gay, make you gay, etc etc.

    I'm a straight female and I go to gay bars all the time. My straight guy friends come with me. My gay friends go. It's a bar like any other. Who fucking cares? You people are ridiculous.

    The fact that any of you consider this an "outing" of Morrissey or to be of any significance whatsoever is just silly and embarrassing.

    And the fact that people are still obsessed with and pondering over Morrissey's sexuality is just so so tiresome. Seriously, can you all move on now to another topic?
    Axed -- Sunday October 30 2005, @11:10AM (#183556)
    (User #1405 Info)
  • Is all new.
    See www.true-to-you.net.
    goinghome -- Sunday October 30 2005, @12:28PM (#183578)
    (User #12673 Info)
  • I think their a bit annoying, what do other moz fans think?
    I mean could they ever be like the smiths?
    Anonymous -- Sunday October 30 2005, @03:16PM (#183587)
  • But everyday is like sunday
    Anonymous -- Sunday October 30 2005, @03:37PM (#183588)
  • We desperately need some real news to discuss, instead of this irrelevant nonsense.

    Next week : Morrissey is spotted buying a loaf of bread.
    dandy dick -- Sunday October 30 2005, @05:16PM (#183599)
    (User #13605 Info)
    • Re:News ? by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 30 2005, @05:36PM
      • Re:News ? by Math Tinder (Score:1) Sunday October 30 2005, @07:14PM
        • Re:News ? by goinghome (Score:1) Monday October 31 2005, @06:29AM
  • Truffles and wine anyone!?!?
    I just don't find this highly exciting news.
    mauve21 -- Monday October 31 2005, @02:35AM (#183643)
    (User #13027 Info)
  • for the explanation but i almost gave up reading it. its like an essay!! lets not waste time troubling over this, but wait for some proper news instead!

    Katie
    Anonymous -- Monday October 31 2005, @08:27AM (#183664)
  • I get fed up of seeing smiths comparisons now their comparing them to the smiths & johnny marr apparently one of the songs off the new single is a "rowdier version" of i know it's over.

    NO ONE can beat or compete with morrissey & Marr you just can't.

    http://www.dominorecordco.com/site/index.php?page= releases&releaseID=598
    Anonymous -- Monday October 31 2005, @10:46AM (#183672)
  • WHY IS IT SO HARD to understand that Morrissey was in a gay bar? Just because he is a famous artist means that he can not be gay himself? I just do not understand why so many of these entries that have been written into Moz Solo do not want to believe that yes, he may have been in that place because he feels comfortable around other men who do not care if he is gay or not
          Its apparent that not one person who has written in about this nightclub incident, has ever read any early Morrissey interviews. He has mentioned dozens of times how "he used to get chased out of the bars in England when he was younger. Man, is it really so hard to admit? I mean, listen to his lyrics and you will hear a lot more than you probably want to admit to and believe! LISTEN TO HIS WORDS! End
    Paneeks -- Thursday November 03 2005, @10:14AM (#184202)
    (User #13051 Info)
    "A beach is a place where a man can feel, its the only soul in the world thats real".


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