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davidt
on Friday January 07 2005, @09:00AM
Gavin writes:
It seems that Morrissey came along to the Irish premiere of Alexander in Dublin last night. Irish Alexander premiere attracts thousands - RTE.ie I don't know why he was there - any ideas? --- Belligerent Ghoul sends another link: Thousands welcome Alexander star to hometown premier - Corks 96fm
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Alexander (Score:1)
Alexander was made out to be gay. Roxane was apparently a black woman (although her parents and tribe were Mongolian Persians) and Hephaestion wore so much make up you'd think he was the Marilyn Manson of his day. Oh...and Angelina had the most hideous Russian accent imaginable and everyone else an Irish accent.
I really wonder what Morrissey thought.
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Alexander (Score:2, Insightful)
PS:
Thank you Oliver Stone, for turning the most daring queer guy in history into a whimpering bi-sexual!
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Mark Simpson can explain these things (Score:2, Interesting)
Achilles, Alexander, Jason, Odysseus - the fabulous scrapping,
rutting warriors of the Ancient World fulfil every boy's own
fantasy. Now, says Mark Simpson, they have been cast as a bunch of
preening wusses. Why is Hollywood so scared of real men? INDEPENDENT ON SUNDAY 19 December 2004
For some, the entry "Double Classics" in a school timetable might
have been an ominous omen. For me and my classmates however it meant
80 minutes of bliss listening to a wonderful old gent called Mr
Field tell fantastic stories of male derring-do from the Ancient
World. Spellbound and wide-eyed we listened to the adventures of
Jason and the Argonauts, Achilles, Odysseus. So great was the pull
of the past that hardly anyone fidgeted or played with their chunky
1970s LED digital watches.
Of all the epic tales recounted it was that of Alexander the Great
that most gripped my pubescent imagination. The story of a scrappy,
muscular little blond boy from the provincial Greek state of
Macedonia who took on the world and won, carving out an
unprecedented empire that stretched from the Adriatic to India. The
story of a boy who never quite grew up; who quite probably
assassinated his father; who certainly surpassed his extraordinary
achievements, establishing himself as the greatest cavalry captain
who ever lived, whose tactics are still studied today; a boy who
never really cared for any woman except his terrifying mother
Olympias (so terrifying that once he left home, Alexander never
returned); whose great and constant loves were Bucephalus, his
legendary war-horse,and Hephaestion, his legendary comrade in beefy
arms. What boy wouldn't love Alexander? What boy wouldn't want to be
Alexander?
The story of Alexander the Great (356BC -323BC) is the best boy's
own story ever told; the Trojan Wars may never have happened: hence
the posters for Oliver Stone's new movie Alexander announce: "The
Greatest Legend Of All Was Real". Alexander's is a tale of passion,
adventure, really big fisticuffs, masculine camaraderie, and running
away from girls. And also, drunkenness, debauchery, mass murder and
madness. His 12-year tour of the known (and unknown) world, and his
long list of battle honours - Thebes, Heliocarnassus, Issus,
Gaugamela, Tyre, Hydaspes, to name but a few - represent the
greatest rock'n'roll tour in history.
Alexander is the timeless, ageless hero of boyish psychosis - a
romantic disease which affects all men, though admittedly some more
than others (well, I was at boarding school). Boys brim with enough
energy to change the world, or destroy it - it makes no difference
to them. This dangerous, sexy, passionate indifference is the basis
of the mixture of fear and envy that causes adults generally to
treat them so badly.
Alexander's story is one of literally global ambition, one that
shaped the Ancient World; his Eastern crusades ended the ancient
dynasties of Persia and Egypt. Alexander effectively invented the
Western idea of Empire, globalisation and stamped his face on our
idea of fame and success. He wanted nothing less than the whole
world to be Alexander. For a while he came shockingly close to
achieving just that, boldly going where no man had gone before
(another boyhood hero of mine, William Shatner, played Alexander in
a TV series before landing the role of Captain James Tiberius Kirk).
In part, his success was due to the way he succeeded in portraying
his own ambition and self-interest as being for the benefit of
Macedonia, pan-Hellinism or humanity itself.
In this Alexander could be seen as the ancient template for a neo- con America; he even invaded and conquered what is today Iraq and
Afghanistan - as well as Iran. But like the neo-cons he could
conquer but he couldn't or wouldn't administrate:
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Cork's 96FM in scoop of the century shocker ! (Score:1)
So the reunion rumours were true !!!!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh !
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tell me more!!.... (Score:0)
Did he stand on his own and leave on his own?
someone in Dublin please watch local news and report back.
Re:tell me more!!.... (Score:2, Informative)
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=51922132&cdi =0
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Re:tell me more!!.... (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.showbizireland.com/news/january05/07-farrell92.shtml
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Does he still have a house here? (Score:0)
Maybe... (Score:0)
Morrissey in Basic instinct??? (Score:2, Funny)
when I went into the link they are talking about David Morrissey (actor)-God that gave me a shock!!!
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Picture of Moz at the premiere (Score:1)
Another great picture of Morrissey - I can't decide if he looks really relaxed or totally uncomfortable. What do you think?
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Free movie, dude (Score:0)
I have to say (Score:1)
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shame (Score:1)
while i'd love him never to descend to any showbiz schmoozing, he is allowed to accept the odd invite. i hope he enjoyed the movie and can then get back to creating his future masterpiece - if he wants to.
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Why was he there? To see the movie dumbass! (Score:2, Funny)
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Who was he with? (Score:1)
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awful movie (Score:1)
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alexander sucked (Score:1)
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its obvious (Score:0)
you better take an ugly lover (Score:0)
that movie was SHIT, by the by
im sure morrissey would agree with me.
The greys (Score:1)
Mark Simpson explained possible relevance of the movie, to return larger-than-life heroes to our awareness. Moz, with his comeback, his nomination by NME as the most influential pop artist of the century, his own “Attack” label to promote his selection of artists, his stance on big issues, is a cultural conquering hero, a legend, a leader in our times. He, like Bono, could be pivotal in lending support to changes, though Bono has probably more of a 'sense of belonging'. Moz attracts devotion and is on the world stage, as Alexander was, though with a more humanitarian free agenda, not so man-eat-man (in the warrish sense!). If only for lyrical material, such a film could provide ideas. How often have we picked up a book with little expectation only to find it motivating, or vice versa?
So all’s well amigos! He’s on his holidays!
Here’s a story, before I go off to search for my mind! -
This guy from Dublin sailed to England, went straight to a pub and bought a round of beers.
“Will an Irish tenner be alright?” he asked the barman.
When the barman replied, “no problem” he broke out in the chorus of “Oh Danny Boy…”
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we are horribly cursed people (Score:2, Funny)
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Alexander was NOT gay (Score:2, Funny)
Obviously you haven't read any history so I'll give you a quick lesson.
"Who knows, he lived over 2000 years ago". Infact we know a great deal! "There are few personilties in Ancient Greek History who's history is so well known." - Pierre Devambez (A Dictionary of Ancient Greek Civilization) There are many important sources for Alexander's life. The main ones being the "war journals" of many "reporters" who followed Alexander in his campaigns and battles and of course the written accounts of his generals, Ptolemy and Aristovolus who fought alongside Alexander.
I won't get into Alexander's bio but if he can be accused of one thing it would have to be being asexual. His mother, Olympias, fearing he might become "feminine" brought him prostitutes. Alexander being too ambitious and desperately wanting to accomplish as much as his father, Phillip thought sex a waste of time. Another reason for his asexuality was that he drank a lot. Alexander wasn't a drinker but often drank a lot so he would pass out and sleep for 2 nights and be ready for his battles. Also drinking helped him sleep on his horse like the Persians did in order to be ready for an attack.
Yes, they were different times than ours but amorality was an offence and homosexuality was considered unnatural and immoral. They were treacherous times. Alexander grew up amongst battles and wars and when he took the throne he had to fight to keep it.
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Re:Alexander was NOT gay (?!) (Score:2, Funny)
I'll accept that you study or have an interest in Greek Archaeology, but what does that have to do with your inability to accept the fact that Alexander liked getting his end off in another soldier? If you are ineed Greek yourself, then I can see why you are so beligerent to accept what is considered to be common knowledge. But you can't take it personally. No one believes for one moment that all Greeks are gay. On the contrary. The numbers couldn't be higher than 79-80% at best.
And besides, It can't be very easy coming from a country who's name is shared with the very act your greatest citizen seems to have indulged in at every opportune moment.
Thank you for the penetrating discussion.
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Just an opinion (Score:0)
Alex
Was Tommy Cooper gay? (Score:1)
Two fat blokes in a pub, one says to the other "your round." The other one says "so are you, you fat bastard!"
Two cannibals eating a clown. One says to the other "Does this taste funny to you?"
Two prostitutes standing on a street corner. One says to the other, "have you ever been picked up by the fuzz?" The other replies, "No, but I've been swung around by the tits!"
Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
An 83-year old woman decided that she'd seen and done everything, and the time had come to depart from this world. After considering various methods of doing away with herself she came to a conclusion. The quickest and surest way would be to shoot herself through the heart. The trouble was, she wasn't certain about exactly where her heart was, so she phoned her doctor and asked him. He told her that her heart was located two inches below her left nipple. She shot herself in the left kneecap.
A blind bloke walks into a shop with a guide dog. He picks the dog up and starts swinging it around his head. Alarmed, a shop assistant calls out: 'Can I help, sir?' 'No thanks,' says the blind bloke. 'Just looking.'
Patient : Doctor, you've got to help me. Every night I get the urge to go downstairs and stick my d ** k into the biscuit tin. Do you know what's wrong with me? Doctor : Yes ... 'you're f ***** g crackers.'
"Cos it's strange, isn't it. You stand in the middle of a library and go 'Aaaaaaagghhhh!' and everyone just stares at you. But you do the same thing on an aeroplane, and everyone joins in”.
"He said 'I'm going to chop off the bottom of one of your trouser legs and put it in a library.' I thought 'That's a turn-up for the books."
"And the back of his anorak was leaping up and down, and people were chucking money to him. I said 'Do you earn a living doing that?' He said 'Yes, this, this my lively-hood.'
"So I was getting into my car, and this bloke says to me "Can you give me a lift?" I said "Sure, you look great, the world's your oyster, go for it!”
"You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today. They left a little note on the windscreen, it said 'Parking Fine.' So that was nice."
"So I went down my local ice-cream shop, and said I want to buy an ice-cream'. He said ‘Hundreds & thousands?' I said 'We'll start with one.' He said 'Knickerbocker glory?' I said 'I do get a certain amount of freedom in these trousers, yes.'
I went to Millets and said 'I want to buy a tent.' He said 'To camp?' I said (butchly) 'Sorry, I want to buy a tent.’ I said 'I also want to buy a caravan.' He said 'Camper?' I said (campily) 'Make your mind up.'
So I went to the dentist. He said "Say Aaah." I said "Why?" He said "My dog's died."
"Now, most dentist's chairs go up and down, don't they? The one I was in went back and forwards. I thought 'This is unusual'. And the dentist said to me 'Mr Cooper, get out of the filing cabinet.'"
"So I got home, and the phone was ringing. I picked it up, and said 'Who's speaking please?' And a voice said 'You are.'"
"So I rang up my local swimming baths. I said 'Is that the local swimming baths?' He said 'It depends where you're calling from.'"
"So I rang up a local building firm, I said 'I want a skip outside my house.' He said 'I'm not stopping you.'
"Apparently, 1 in 5 people in the world are Chinese. And there are 5 people in my family, so it must be one of them. It's either my mum or my dad. Or my older brother Colin. Or my younger brother Ho-Cha-Chu. But I think it's Colin."
"So I was in my car, and I was driving along, and my boss rang up, and he said 'You've been promoted.' And I swerved. And then he rang up a second time and said "You've been promoted again.' And I swerved again. He rang up a third time and said 'You're managing director.'And I went into a tree. And a policeman came up and said 'What happened to you?' I said 'I careered off the road.'
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You Americans again... (Score:1)
Now when Morrissey feels such a strong bond to the last two (+ Jobriah, Derek Jarman, etc), why do Americans on this site insist that, no, no way, these people were not gay! Obviously Morrissey doesn´t have to be, but the odds are not even...
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Tiki 1 - Eric 0 (Score:0)
FYI I'm gay.Not the sexually confused, have nothing better to do,Moz fan gay but GAY!
Slum Mums - are they gay? (Score:0, Redundant)
The following are all replies that women have put on British Child Support Agency forms in the section for listing father's details:
1. Regarding the identity of the father of my twins, child A was fathered by [name removed]. I am unsure as to the identity of the father of child B, but I believe that he was conceived on the same night.
2. I am unsure as to the identity of the father of my child as I was being sick out of a window when taken unexpectedly from behind. I can provide you with a list of names of men that I think were at the party if this helps.
3. I do not know the name of the father of my little girl. She was conceived at a party [address and date given] where I had unprotected sex with a man I met that night. I do remember that the sex was so good that I fainted. If you do Manage to track down the father can you send me his phone number? Thanks.
4. I don't know the identity of the father of my daughter. He drives a BMW that now has a hole made by my stiletto in One of the door panels. Perhaps you can contact BMW service stations in this area and see if he's had it replaced.
5. I have never had sex with a man. I am awaiting a letter from Pope confirming that my son's conception was immaculate and that he is Christ risen again.
6. I cannot tell you the name of child A's dad as he informs me that to do so would blow his cover and that would have cataclysmic implications for the British economy. I am torn between doing right by you and right by the country. Please advise.
7. I do not know who the father of my child was as all squaddies look the same to me. I can confirm that he was a Royal Green Jacket.
8. [name given] is the father of child A. If you do catch up with him can you ask him what he did with my AC/DC CDs? 9. From the dates it seems that my daughter was conceived at Euro Disney maybe it really is the Magic Kingdom.
10. So much about that night is a blur. The only thing that I remember for sure is Delia Smith did a programme about eggs earlier in the evening. If I'd have stayed in and watched more TV rather than going to the party at [address given] mine might have remained unfertilised.
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Re:Slum Mums - are they gay? (Score:2, Funny)
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Alexander - the Dublin connection! (Score:0, Redundant)
NORTHSIDE LEAVING CERT MATHS TEST
FOR SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH SIDE OF DUBLIN:
NAME _________________________
NICK-NAME ____________________
GANG NAME ____________________
1. Deco has 0.5 kilos of cocaine. If he sells an 8 ball to
Vinno for 300 quid and 90 grammes to Tommo for 90 quid a gram, what is the street value of the rest of his hold?
2. Anto pimps 3 brassers. If the price is 40 quid a royde, how many roydes per day must each brasser perform to support Vinno's
500 quid a day crack habit?
3. Whacker wants to cut the kilo of cocaine he bought for 7,000 quid, to make a 20% profit. How many grammes of strychnine will he need?
4. Christy got 6 years for murder. He also got 350,000 for the hit. If his common law wife spends 33,100 per month, how much money will be left when he gets out? Extra Credit Bonus:
How much more time will Christy get for killing the slapper that spent his money?
5. If an average can of spray paint covers 22 square meters and the average letter is 1 square meter, how many letters can be sprayed with eight fluid ounce cans of spray paint with 20% extra paint free?
6. Liamo steals Eamo's skateboard. As Liamo skates away at a speed of 35 mph, Eamo loads his brothers armalite. If it takes Eamo 20 seconds to load the gun, how far will Liamo have travelled when he gets whacked?
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SOUTH SIDE LEAVING CERT MATHS TEST
FOR SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTHSIDE OF DUBLIN:
NAME _______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
(if longer, please continue on separate sheet)
SCHOOL ____________________
DADDY'S COMPANY ___________
1. Julian smashes up the old man's car, causing x amount of damage and killing three people. The old man asks his local TD (politician) to intervene in the court system, then forges his insurance claim and receives a payment of y. The difference between x and y is three times the life insurance settlement for the three dead people. What kind of car is Julian driving now?
2. Chloe's personal shopper decides to substitute generic and own-brand products for the designer goods favoured by her employer. In the course of a month she saves the price of a return ticket to Fiji and Chloe doesn't even notice the difference. Is she thick or what?
3. Roly fancies the arse off a certain number of tarts, but he only has enough Rohypnol left to render 33.3% unconscious. If he has 14 Rohypnol, how is he ever going to shag the other two-thirds?
4. If Savannah throws up four times a day for a week she can fit a size 8 Versace. If she only throws up three times a day for two weeks, she has to make do with a size 10 Dolce et Gabbano. How much does liposuction cost?
5. Alexander is unsure about his sexuality. Three days a week he fancies women. On the other days he fancies men, ducks and vacuum cleaners. However he only has access to the Hoover every third week. When does his Sunday Independent column start?
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Christ... (Score:0)
Doesn't really make sense. Just proves that there are assholes everywhere you go.
Not a big deal if Morrissey goes to the cinema (Score:1)
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Moz in Dublin (Score:1, Informative)
Moz crush on Colin F. (Score:0)
People are people........ (Score:1)
p.s.
Everyone knows gay guys make the best friends!
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