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posted by
davidt
on Monday October 04 2004, @01:00PM
Angela of MorrisseyTour.com writes:
The news through the grapevine is that apparently Sanctuary is fuming over the KROQ thing. You remember, that conversation where Morrissey called in KROQ to announced the make up shows for inland invasion. The folks at Sanctuary are upset that this web site revealed that the caller was not Morrissey, but rather Charlie Browne, a long time crew member. No, I haven’t receive my official fatwa (yet). Although I’ve been assured of its arrival It was my personal opinion that the caller was not Morrissey. I’ve known Charlie Brown for the past 5 years and am familiar with his voice. Additionally, I spoke with three of his former co-workers all who agreed it was him. Sanctuary and KROQ insist that Morrissey was the caller. Sanctuary and KROQ would never lie or deceive us so we must take their word as the truth. The caller was so obviously Morrissey that it seems perplexing that I could have confused him for anyone else. Mea Culpa. I stand corrected. I was wrong. I can assure you that the rumours regarding Morrissey not being the caller are false and the integrity of Sanctuary and KROQ cannot be questioned! They handled a very difficult situation impeccably and you should treat anything you are told to the contrary as rubbish. Additionally, I, Angela (of MorrisseyTour.com) want to clarify that the account of events leading up to the rumour that Morrissey was not caller in the phone call to KROQ on September 28, 2004, previously was posed on this site. The above mentioned account was not trying to question ever the professionalism either of the Artist or of his Management or KROQ. MorrisseyTour.com apologizes should any of the relation of events included in our website have caused any misunderstanding between the KROQ and the Artist, his Management and his fans. MorrisseyTour.com did everything possible in order to confirm the veracity of the rumour. On the other hand, MorrisseyTour.com declares and recognizes that KROQ, the Artist and Sanctuary Artist Management are correct in saying that Morrissey was the actual caller. Finally, MorrisseyTour.com regrets any distress this matter has caused KROQ, the Artist and Sanctuary Artist Management venue and hopes that no fans were misled in our very obvious mistake! ---
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The Truth Is... (Score:0)
ouch (Score:1)
i wonder what morrissey has to say about this? he apologized for the spin cover, urged us not to become so enthralled with the humerist and malady lingers on dvds...
what are we supposed to think this time?
(User #12126 Info)
Definately not Moz (Score:1)
Who the heck is in charge?? So very shady....
(User #430 Info)
this story is old... (Score:0)
p.s. how is the 50 million dollar lawsuit against KROQ going?
The Truth, Again. (Score:0, Redundant)
Sanctuary handles situations poorly. Late updates on Website. No proper cancellation announcements when needed. A terrible money sucking and terribly organized tour. Sad.
Poor morrisseytour.com (Score:1)
I am sure the rumor was started by a rep from either the band/crew/label anyway but it is nice to see you(label/band/sad radio station) found a little scape-goat. Well done.
Angela, i guess future guest list spot are now in jeopardy, sorry.
"Theres more to life than gigs, you know....but not much more"
(User #1113 Info)
Not Morrissey (Score:0)
Next Announcement. (Score:0)
Oh, their important "integrity".
Sanctuary (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Sanctuary (Score:2, Insightful)
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it really wasn't charlie browne impersonating moz (Score:1, Funny)
(User #36 Info)
Im witht he zebra (Score:0)
As a fan right from the days of the smiths I am not having it. Dont care less what they say, unless he had a voice transplant that was not Morrissey.
No No No No (Score:0)
tossers.... (Score:0)
Anyone pick up the sarcasm? (Score:0)
The use of the sanctuary quote from the cancellation of the original gig for example. The qualification of the sources backing up the thought. The amazing "it was so obviously morrissey" comment. Considering they said it was not him how can they say, oh yes it was obviously him how could we think it not!
I think this is firmly tongue in cheek and dont think they believe a word of it either.
I am on my own (Score:0)
Are you mad? (Score:2, Informative)
Do you think it wasn't arranged for "him" to be on the phone? Do you think they cold called him? Did they woke him out of his bloody sleep? "Huh...wha...the phone is a ringing..what bloody rubbish....who be a ringing me so early..?..Oh Bean..it's you lot...Blimey...wha?...were on the air?"
Morrissey's part of the actual conversation:
"Hallo, Good morning..uh...89% I should say...Well it was during the morning of the show..I found that, ah...I could almost hardly speak, and it was, ah, sinusitis, larangitis, and the doctor did tell me, uh, ya, ya know ya can't even sing, ya can't speak, ya must rest, and I had a terribly heavy fever...yes, yes, of course, well, I feel terribly disappointed for them, and, and for myself, I wanted to be there...Well, no, umf, it comes and goes, it's uh, uh, it's very difficult sometimes, when I'm singing constantly on tour, and, uh ya know, the pressures of touring, gives my throat an absolute ratching, do ya know what I mean?...I tend just to drink a lot of tea...um, we were ,we were, having to do a video at the same time and that had to go as well...yes, well, ya know...I'll plod along...uuhh...I..I'm ok, yes...jus a second...uuhh...I was jus...(unitelligible mumble)...what was that again you said?...yes...ehhh...lemmee, uh lemmeee jus uh, gather my thoughts here for jus a second...it's uh, gunna be on October 31st, which I believe is Haloween...it will be at the, uh, Hyundai Pavillion, so I hope you do keep listening to, uh, K-rock, go to k-rock dot com, and there you'll find all the details...that's correct...yes, we'll, uh, umm, very excited about the show coming up at the Universal Amphitheater...uh...it's rather busy...so I am told...It's the doctor's orders...thank you"
Other peoples voices were heard and he said it was quite busy there, so it isn't like he had just woken up. The more I listen to this conversation, the less it sounds like him.
I have the recording if anyone wants it emailed to them.
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"Y'know whadda mean?" (Score:0)
So who was in the backgrond? (Score:1)
I'm referring to the "I'm excited"-whisper at the end of the conversation.
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It was NOT Morrissey. (Score:0)
can i hear it? (Score:0)
oh my god.... (Score:1, Interesting)
(User #184 Info | http://www.cato.org/)
I have to admit..... (Score:0)
Nonetheless, even tough they put me 20 bucks under, I side with them -- definitely not Morrissey.
-Excited about New York -- the Saturday Philly show was perfect. MMMMM
Shut it (Score:2, Insightful)
Morrisseytour.com is a good Web site. It gives us a look at Morrissey really from the fans' point of view (e.g., the reviews and the diaries).
I think Sanctuary should back off from these fan sites and try to better manage the "official" Morrissey site, which totally sucks.
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I know there's a lot of naysayers, but (Score:1)
As for the colloquisms...Morrissey HAS lived in the U.S. for the last 7 or so years, and "you know what I mean?" is a common saying in the US.
Furthermore, most of us don't hear Morrissey off guard...he obviously was supposed to say certain things that he didn't have a script for, and to have things whispered probably threw him off a little.
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Somebody at MorrisseyTour crapped their pants (Score:2, Funny)
(User #1034 Info)
Sanctuary = more stupid than thought (Score:0)
If they don't understand how ridiculous what they do is, they won't certainly get the irony of Angela's (very well written) response.
(Knowing Morrissey, I wouldn't even be surprised if he was the initiator of this. Like I said, we know him.)
BTW Angela: (Score:1, Informative)
Laughing SO hard!! (Score:0)
A special 'thank you' goes out to all the Gossip Queens who fan and feed on this shit! You've all made my day.
Ex-Sense Analysis (Score:1)
Final Report: (Risk)
>General Mood:
Start-Thinking... End-Highly Stressed
>Excitement level:L-0.0%, H-0.0%, E-0.0%, {NEG:0.0%}
>Confusion level:L-0.0%, H-0.0%, E-0.0%
>Stress level:L-0.0%, H-0.0%, E-100.0%
>Out-Smart level:0.0%
>FINAL RISK LEVEL:0.0%
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The subject was not EXCITED AT ALL during the test.
The subject was Very Confident during the test.
! The SUBJECT'S GENERAL STRESS level is HIGH!
The subject was EXTREMELY STRESSED in too many segments. It is possible that the subject is hidding something!
The subject tends to get stress easily.
It appears that the subject spoke freely about all the issues!
The subject invests Heavy Thinking while he/she speaks.
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No Lies or Inaccuracies were detected.
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Start CAL- EMO:558 COG:295 STR:24.00
End CAL- EMO:497 COG:310 STR:46.56
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I think it's a fair enough analysis. The caller (whoever he was) wasn't lying about what happened to Morrissey. So long as he could pull off the overarching fib, the rest would be truthful. And since no one questioned the caller about really being Morrissey or not, he didn't have to answer to that lie-detection element. ;D
(User #6214 Info)
Still Can't See The Point! (Score:0)
Just can't see the logic in the whole thing.
Any theories?
Official statement from Hertz.... (Score:1)
I can understand what Morrissey must be going through right now.
I didn't do it either.
-- Orenthal
My bad. It was Moz. Nope, wasn't Charlie...or Linus...or...that black kid on the piano. It was Morrissey. I....have recently gotten my ears cleaned at the doctor's office and.....heard the tape again. I was wrong. Wasn't Morrissey. It also wasn't Morrissey at the trial a couple of years ago. The judge was all wrong. I know because he isn't really devious, truculent, and unreliable. Couldn't have been him there either.
Dear Jim,
Hope you like my show tonight at the Orpheum theatre!
Sincerely,
Jude Law
That's not to say that Moz really is those things, but now it seems that his record company might be. Sorry Sanctuary. I had alot of respect for you in the beginning. But now I don't know what to think. Actually I do. You may be able to 'fake' or be fooled as to his voice, but while we don't all have his home number, we have seen him before. Don't try and sell us $30 shirts with Quentin Tarantino on it. We know him that much at least.
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Sanctuary must think (Score:1)
You guys (Sanctuary and KROQ) got caught and bullying morrisseytour.com to make a retraction is just pathetic.
(User #69 Info)
What would happen if (Score:1)
Would they actually go to the trouble of physically coming to your house to deliver a summons or force the ISP to close a site down? Any lawyers here?
If I were morrisseytour.com, I would've let Sanctuary spend (ie. waste) as much time and resources possible to see how far they'd go to make a little ol' fan site retract a statement.
I'm not blaming morrisseytour.com for eventually caving in, but holy shit, they could've at least let Sanctuary wring their hands a bit longer before entering the Olympic backpedaling event...
(User #80 Info)
oh purleassse (Score:0)
To be or not to be (Score:0)
... just kidding, just kidding... (am I going to be sued?)
bores (Score:0)
Not this again, please! (Score:0)
Angela's contradictory statement! (Score:2, Insightful)
That Morrissey, Sanctuary, and KROQ ganged up and bullied Angela into retracting her statement (a doubtless belief that the voice was Charlie Brown's) is totally repugnant and morally reprehensible.
We all recognise His voice when we hear it, lurgy or no lurgy. Who are they trying to fool?
Us fans should gang up on The Mozfather and refuse to buy his concert tickets in future.
All this skullduggery only proves what a paragons of saintliness and virtue our old friends Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke truly are!
(User #843 Info)
I'm Sparticus! (Score:0)
It could have been worse.... (Score:1)
(I have it on good authority that the Bridlington venue sold 2 bags of chips and a pickled egg before Moz came on, there would have been hell to pay if people had splashed a lot of cash and then Moz hadn't turned up. Lucky it was just the tiny little KROQ thing that was canned.)
(User #3416 Info)
KROK/Sanctuary (Score:0)
We are not fools!
Funny! (Score:0, Troll)
What I find funny are two thing.
One is that this MorrisseyTour.com person originally was full of shit when she claimed to have it "on good authority" that it was Charlie Brown who called in. Whether her hunch is right or wrong, she LIED when she said she had it on good authority. Thus, I now proclaim her the Dan Rather of Morrissey fan site journalists.
Second, it's interesting how people are always so suspicious of Morrissey. Whether people are right or wrong in this instance, perhaps Morrissey should think about why people suspect he's always BSing about things.
(User #778 Info)
Sad to say... (Score:2, Interesting)
It's no secret that our dear Moz has a history of missing gigs due to illness. He has gone on record about having problems with depression, in the past, and this is no doubt behind many of the cancellations. We love Morrissey for what he is - that is the beauty of his art.
Nevertheless, cancelling the KROQ appearance (particularly when considered alongside other recent cancellations and the label's attempt at an overall media blitz) obviously required more damage control than usual. In addition to issuing a laboriously detailed explanation (Christ, how often do we see a doctor's name quoted in these things?), Morrissey's management - either Sanctuary or his representation - worked out a deal with KROQ to have Morrissey announce the replacement dates live and on air. Everybody's happy, including the fans who get the added touch of hearing from their hero.
Problem is, Morrissey (for probably the same reasons as his various other cancellations, over the years) didn't want to do this particular bit of PR work. He's never struck me as the sort of guy to go for this stuff. But the business-types set it up and he had to somehow comply. So he had his mate handle the call. Maybe that was Moz whispering in his ear, maybe someone else entirely.
But c'mon, it obviously wasn't Morrissey. At least give the fans that much credit. We've spent fortunes on his music and videos. We know what his voice sounds like. It wasn't him.
It was kind of funny, initially, to hear the audio clip and realize that Moz had pulled one over on KROQ. Kind of strange to even try pulling something like that, in the digital age, but oh well - another bizarre story for Moz.
It was disappointing to see KROQ's post, denying the truth. But I guess they really didn't know better. They were truly duped.
But now it's really disappointing to see MorrisseyTour.com getting bullied around. They were just telling the truth.
This is the kind of bullshit that the George W's of the world get up to. It's really, really disappointing, coming from the people in Morrissey's circle.
Hopefully this rundown feels as clear and reasonable to everyone else as it does to me.
Re:"You fat pig" (Score:1)
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