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"Better In A Band: Are solo artists ever better than the bands that spawned them?" - BBC Music 6

posted by davidt on Monday August 23 2004, @09:00AM
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Great Debate BBC 6 Music

Posted By: Lazy Dyke
Date: Sunday, 22 August 2004, at 10:55 a.m.

On the main page of BBC 6 Music there's a small picture of Morrissey (Kill Uncle cover shot), beside a link to the Great Debate page. The topic is "Better In A Band: Are solo artists ever better than the bands that spawned them?" The presenter, Mark Sutherland, talks about different artists who have gone solo after the dissolution of their bands, and writes briefly of Moz:

"Morrissey – wrote a million genius songs with The Smiths, precisely two without them (Suedehead and The First Of The Gang To Die, since you ask)."

(I would have to disagree with this assertion - I mean, he doesn't even rate "Everyday Is Like Sunday?!).

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  • Still it's nice to see Sutherland rate Moz's new material by including FOTGTD.
    Anonymous -- Monday August 23 2004, @09:38AM (#120428)
  • "Better In A Band: Are solo artists ever better than the bands that spawned them?"
    This is a good question. Some artists achieve larger success when they leave a band (fatboy slim/norman cook, morrissey, sting, annie lennox, natalie merchant, pete best, etc) but 'are they ever better' is the question and i cant seem to put my finger on anyone who actually is. This will be rolling around my head the rest of the day.
    *curses m-solo for making me think*
    Johnny Marr -- Monday August 23 2004, @02:22PM (#120490)
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  • "Morrissey – wrote a million genius songs with The Smiths, precisely two without them."

    its as if all hes ever heard of Moz's solo career are his bookend singles. Moz' entire catalouge is packed with genius [even Maladjusted]. ithink the arguement that Moz's solo career is greater than his career with The Smiths could be made very strongly- one thing his solo career definitely has on The Smiths is longevity [another is commercial success].
    chrisarclark <[email protected]> -- Monday August 23 2004, @05:20PM (#120509)
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  • I agree with Sutherland that when one compares the Smiths' output with that of Moz solo the Smiths win hands down. Consistently brilliant throughout their short career. Moz's solo output is far, far less consistent. But I think he's understimating Moz somewhat, certainly by failing to list 'Everyday Is Like Sunday', but also by failing to mention the number of great (as distinguished from genius) songs Moz has made as a solo - 'Sister I'm A Poet', 'Jack The Ripper', 'November Spawned A Monster', 'Trouble Loves Me', 'Speedway', 'The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get', 'Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself?', 'Now My Heart Is Full', 'I'd Love To', 'I Am Hated For Loving', 'Hold On To Your Friends', 'Nobody Loves Us', 'Boxers', 'Late Night, Maudlin Street', 'You're Gonna Need Someone On Your Side', 'Seasick, Yet Still Docked', 'Tomorrow' etc etc etc.....

    Few of these stand up to the Smiths' best songs, but some, like 'Sister, I'm A Poet' and 'Jack The Ripper' and 'Boxers', do come fairly near.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 24 2004, @02:37AM (#120544)
  • Meat is Murder You are the Quarry

    Rusholme Ruffians IBEH
    What She Said Come Back to Camden
    That Joke Bores
    How Soon Is Now First of the gang
    Well I Wonder You Know I Couldn't Last

    A draw. That's not bad is it?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 24 2004, @08:44AM (#120583)

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