posted by davidt on Wednesday September 25 2002, @09:00AM
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New Times LA | Music: Hot Child

New Times Los Angeles
September 19, 2002

Excerpt:

Last Friday Hot Child checked out the Morrissey show at Arrowhead Pond, where His Chinfulness opened for Mexican tame-rockers Jaguares. ("Hola, Los Angeles!" Morrissey shouted, looking precisely like a cross between Elvis and Quentin Tarantino. "We is Morrissey.") The overwhelmingly Latino crowd sang along to oldies and listened with loving attention to new songs such as "Mexico" ("If you're rich and you're white you'll be all right") and, I believe, "The First in the Gang" ("[Hector] was the first in the gang to die/Oh my"). The latter is one of the most beautiful L.A.-inspired songs I've heard in years, and rhymes "stars" with "reservoirs."
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  • This article sounds as though it was written by a blind/retarded monkey.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @11:32AM (#42787)
  • I'm a bit offended by the line "if you're white it'll be alright." Why is it always okay to bash or make snotty remarks about white people? This implication that being white somehows buys people privilege is bullsmit. I think a writer of Morrissey's talent should leave the stale 60's jerk-off racist remarks out of his songs. He's better than that.

    PS By the way Morrissey--you're right.
    Cooksey -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @12:14PM (#42792)
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  • Yeah I remember that comment about blacks and whites not getting along. I hate to tell Morrissey but we already do get along. The media blows any racist incident out of proportion, giving people an innaccurate impression.

    This Morrissey lyric seems like cheap pandering at the expense of white people and I for one am tired of it. I keep waiting for these privileges from being white to float my way but they never seem to...
    Cooksey -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @01:02PM (#42801)
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  • we don't all get along and all you people know that!!! unfortunately discrimination will always excist based on the color of you skin. look fashion magazines and when was the last time when you saw naomi campbell or lil kim in the cover of vogue, cosmo, or marie claire? never, right? it is always the same brazilian model, giselle bundchen in every cover.

    black people discriminate each other (to me they are the most racist) based on their own skin color as well. i've met a lot of black men who have admitted to me that they would never ever go out with a black women who has very dark skin because "it just looks too ghetto." they've told me that they would prefer to go out with someone of my sking color (tan) because the babies will come out light skin. also, listen to all those rap songs and listen very carefully to what they say about other peoople.

    and yes, morrissey is right. "if you are rich and your are white, you are alright." anyone who has been to beverly hills will know that this is specially true. you are treated with a lot more respect if you are blonde and with a gucci or louis vuitton bag. remember kids, morrissey has traveled the world and has visited more places probably than most of us will visit in our whole lifetime. he knows what he is talking about because he has lived a more intense life than we have.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @02:09PM (#42811)
    • On racism by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday September 26 2002, @01:00AM
      • Re:On racism by Cooksey (Score:0) Thursday September 26 2002, @08:42AM
        • come on! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday September 26 2002, @11:20AM
          • Re:come on! by Cooksey (Score:0) Thursday September 26 2002, @12:16PM
            • Re:come on! by Anonymous-shnonymous (Score:1) Thursday September 26 2002, @05:57PM
          • Re:come on! by Jimi Bones (Score:1) Thursday September 26 2002, @08:31PM
            • Re:come on! by BobC (Score:1) Friday September 27 2002, @06:10AM
    • Re:yeah right!! by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday September 29 2002, @03:48PM
  • Why is it a big deal that Morrissey has large hispanic fan base in southern cal, I mean the majority in southern cal is hispanic. Obvious that Moz is gonna have a large hispanic fan base in southern cal, because thats the majority of people in southern cal. It's like saying he goes to Canada and he has a large Canadian fan base, duh because Canada is full canadians. I would think these stupid writers would use common sense. I'm sort of sick and tired of these writers saying Moz has a large hispanic fan base and being shocked by it.

    p.s I'm hispanic and I don't think that a large hispanic fan base is a big deal.
    bobmoz <[email protected]> -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @02:16PM (#42813)
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  • Sorry anonymous but that's a bunch of crap. Morrissey is treated deferentially because he is a star, not because he's white.

    Saying white people and black people already get along does not mean every single black and white on the face of the earth get along. It means most do. Yeah there are a lot of racist blacks out there but most aren't. It is an unfortunate fact of life that every group is "known" for it's worst elements. Blacks are knows from their thugs, whites by their rednecks, blah blah blah. But most of us don't fit in those categories and we get along fine.

    Listen pal I'm gay. If I spent even one nano-second obsessing over whether this one or that one is treating me "differently" I'd be in a mental hospital. I don't take chit off anybody and if someone tries to give me chit I attribute it to rudeness, end of story.
    Cooksey -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @03:26PM (#42822)
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  • I think it's interesting that Morrissey has a big Latino base. Most of the Latinos I know are too macho to like Morrissey--just like most of the white guys. So in the end--who cares? But it is interesting from a sociological POV.
    BobC -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @05:53PM (#42843)
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  • shameless plug

    http://morrissey.netvaults.com
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @07:13PM (#42847)
  • What the hell are you all going on about??? I thought by now you had all heard the song? The full lyric reads

    "It seems if you're rich and you're white you'll be alright, I just don't see why this should be so."

    Maybe that will end some of the petty "Racist" comments.
    Sharron Needles -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @10:18PM (#42863)
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    Inside every adult male is a denied little boy -Nancy Friday
  • I take BobC's point of view. Its interesting to find that a great man such as moz has a large hispanic fanbase. Ive known big mexican greaser tough guys get all sentamental listening to morrissey. I think that mexicans are naturally emotional. If you look at our past you will notice that are music culture consist of very deep emotional feelings that moz can relate to. With that in mind it makes sense to find that there is a large hispanic following of moz. Thats just my imput though. All moz fans are great!
    INTERNATIONAL PLAYBO -- Wednesday September 25 2002, @11:42PM (#42869)
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    • Re:me... by David T (different) (Score:1) Thursday September 26 2002, @06:42AM
  • I´m sorry to say this, I mean...I never thought I was going to say something similar in the past but lately...oh my...

    I listened anxiously a couple of weeks ago one of the last songs penned by Morrissey called the Last of the Gang to Die, mentioned in the above article.

    After such a long time without hearing from him and being a devoted old fan (since back in 1986) of course I was nervous and excited to listen to some new material, unfortunantely to say the least oh truly disappointing...

    I know people out there tend to love everything that comes from him nowadays but let´s face it, I expected much more from Morrissey to be quite sincere, what´s the point of a man in his mid 40s singing about mexican gangs in LA? and with such a superficial view over the theme?

    The arrangement didn´t help at all and sound very much like his last songs recorded during the Maladjusted period and the lyrics are absolutely weak that even a teenager could have done better.

    A pity that he himself is not in his late teens anymore, at that time inspiration could be noted abundantly. Maybe is time for the last of the gang to finally die from superstardom and recreate himself as a singer and as a composer, just look beyond kids, Mr. Andy Rourke is a fine example of a low profile musician who´s been playing actively and still able to maintain dignity of former romantic years.

    I just say this because it annoys me enormously to see people worshipping him at his feet without any kind of critical sense and I say what I say here simply because I want him to be in a much better position.

    Hector go home.

    Complaints? I´ll be happy to discuss them.
    Bloke in Blue -- Thursday September 26 2002, @06:39AM (#42926)
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  • But I've read the lyrics and I will not purchase it as long as those lyrics remain. I remember a witty, honest Morrissey and this ain't him.

    FLAME ON!
    BobC -- Thursday September 26 2002, @06:58AM (#42932)
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  • I see no one defending the Jaguares being called tame. Im gonna make him drink moose piss for that!
    Would you rather hear Morrissey's lyrics all plain and shit. like oops i did it again. At least he writes about concerns facing Mexicans, and Latinos as a whole. Which shows his appreciation for us. The more people show their racist side towards his lyrics the more they make sense.
    ToolArmy -- Thursday September 26 2002, @08:57PM (#43070)
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    • Re:Jags by BobC (Score:1) Friday September 27 2002, @06:18AM
      • Re:Jags by Jimi Bones (Score:1) Monday September 30 2002, @03:53PM
  • Where can I hear these new songs? Is Morrissey putting out a cd soon?
    PattyLuvsMoz -- Sunday September 29 2002, @12:05PM (#43302)
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    • Re:Songs by Jimi Bones (Score:1) Monday September 30 2002, @03:49PM
      • Re:Songs by Jimi Bones (Score:1) Monday September 30 2002, @03:51PM
      • Re:Songs by PattyLuvsMoz (Score:1) Friday October 04 2002, @06:16PM


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