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posted by
davidt
on Monday September 23 2002, @09:00AM
Mozzerian writes and sends:
Moz is briefly mentioned in an interview with Pete Burns in "Attitude" (gay magazine) where he is asked by Matthew from Sydney Australia "what happened to your friendship with Morrissey?" The reply reads: "I bought a fur coat, that's what happened to my friendship with Morrissey. It was a very expensive fur coat from Japan made from genetically engineered something-or-others that'd had their spines lengthened (howling with laughter) so the pelts didn't have to be cut to make a floor length coat. I thought it was hilarious. He started sending me letters saying, "wear that coat and your windows are in", and I sent him letters back that were a lot nastier. We kind of drifted apart over a fur coat really, but I'd still rather have a fur coat. I have a great admiration for his work and for him, but I think when you like someone's work or principles, it doesn't mean that you have to be their best friend. He was great." Scan of article
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What the fuck? (Score:0, Insightful)
They both involve wearing a dead animal's skin for the sake of vanity, how could he fall out with a friend for wearing fur while he's traipsing around in his Gucci leather footwear?
I don't know about Morrissey's reasoning, but in general I think people who think leather is okay but not fur are reverse snobs, they object to fur because it's the trendy attitude and resent the fact that it's mostly rich people who wear it. Get a grip! It's the same fucking thing!
And before anyone starts going on about how furry animals are treated, how about all the poor battery hens that live in misery so that the anti-fur people who eat dairy products can have their omelettes and scrambled eggs! Do you think they all insist on free-range organic ones? I doubt it. And since when do dairy cows have such a pleasant life? They probably love having all those hormones and antibiotics pumped into them, and having their poor little calves snatched away.
When Morrissey orders his breakfast at the Ritz do you think he tells them if they don't have cruelty free eggs and dairy he'll just have dry toast and Captain Crunch with no milk? I fucking doubt it.
I don't want any cop-out answers about 'leather is just a by-product of the meat industry so it doesn't encourage it' - because it does encourage it, they make money from the skins and if they couldn't sell them the price of meat would go up and people would buy less of it. It's also putting money in the pockets of the people who slaughter them, so don't kid yourselves that there is a huge difference between eating meat, wearing leather, and wearing fur. And don't even get me started on people who are anti-fur but DO eat meat, that is just ridiculous.
By the way, just to put this in context, I'm an evil, meat eating, leather and fur wearer, although I don't think I would say that it's right to be. And I usually like animals more than I do people.
Stupid Question (Score:0)
Contradictions? Read below. (Score:1, Informative)
Nevertheless, I am the biggest Morrissey/Smiths fan in the entire state of Indiana. I respect Morrissey very much, and, yes, I have a healthy repsect for Pete Burns to some degree.
Morrissey, however, does not wear leather shoes at all. WHERE is this notion coming from? It is possible to purchase extremely high-quality synthetic shoes from great designers.
Also- I don't believe Morrissey is VEGAN. Morrissey has been quoted as saying that he does enjoy yoghurt. Being vegan is an IDEAL state, but all vegans will tell you that it is impossible to avoid all sources of animal products completely 100% of the time.
Morrissey should be commended on spreading the word.
Truly,
Kenneth G. Stavitzke
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Re:Contradictions? Read below. (Score:2, Informative)
+ It was actually Morrissey, not Pete Burns who made the "naked sailors" remark.
+ It was only 48 naked sailors.
From their "Smash Hits" double interview (see http://www.deadoralive.net/archives/inter2.htm) "He sent me 26 roses when it was my birthday and I sent him 48 naked sailors"
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Sorry, but he DOES wear leather! (Score:0)
Personally I don't care if he's hypocritical about it, but it does seem a bit much for him to be so hard on someone he considered a friend because of a wafer-thin line between fur and leather.
I think it's fine to be a hypocrite in your own actions, but it's a bit much being so self-righteous about it looking down your nose at where other people choose to draw the line.
In his own words: (Score:2, Informative)
Q: How do you define evil?
A: Well, if I said McDonald's you'd yawn and sit on a chair over there and read a book. But I do see McDonald's as the core of modern evil, because it is the death industry. I just feel rage that they will promote themselves from every possible angle but they will not show the process by which the hamburger is made, they will not show the cows' throats being slit, the bull trying to commit suicide by banging his head against the stone floor.
Q: And those leather shoes you're wearing?
A: Yes, and this is a leather belt.
Q: Explain, please. Don't you feel complicit?
A: I don't recall at any time asking people to stop eating dead animals or to stop wearing leather. I think if you ask people to do everything, they become so confused that they do absolutely nothing.
Q: Do you ever feel guilt?
A: No, I don't. It's absolutely useless.
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Re:In his own words: (Score:2, Insightful)
i was just answering the question as to why animals that are seemingly so useless have managed to avoid extinction. i'm sure domestication has had something to do with it, especially since if man just hunted them, they'd be near extinct by now, much like the buffalo.
anyway, i dont think eating meat is unnatural or wrong. i just think that it is unnecessary. i dont eat meat anymore, but i dont judge people who do. i do own one pair of leather shoes and a leather wristwatch which i purchased before making my lifestyle change. i dont plan to stop wearing em either.
i consider myself to be a transcendentalist, which doesnt jibe well with also being a carnivore. so i guess i cant blame it all on moz.
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Peter Was Joking . . . (Score:0)
on leather, fur, and bees (Score:0)
How do you feel about wearing leather?
M: I stopped wearing leather jackets a number of years ago. I do wear leather shoes though because I can't really see that there is a sensible alternative.
It is difficult as the shoe manufacturers tend only to make a decent range of synthetic shoes for women. Curtess are bringing out manmade shoes for men now though.
M: I didn't know about that.
Would you go there now?
M: Today?! Yes I would. I think that the synthetic shoes I've seen in the past looked very silly and that does come into it unfortunately.
Are looks more important than animals?
M: No, but unfortunately it still comes into it.
Do you still take Royal jelly?
M: No, it's the property of others isn't it? The bees work hard for it and I don't, so now I'm on ginseng which keeps me as young as I look!!
What do you think about people wearing fur?
M: It's disgusting. They're disgusting. If I'm in a hotel or restaurant and I see someone wearing fur, I ask them to take it out of public view. They usually do. They are deeply offended, wounded and humiliated and I think they feel a bit ridiculous, but they still remove it.
Okay, this is quite a comical picture - so Morrissey, who has dead animals on his feet (because synthetic shoes look 'silly'- meaning looks ARE more important than animals) walks up to someone and insists that they take the dead animal off their back.(because looks AREN'T more important than animals) - Yes, the man does have a sense of humor, and a good one at that! And balls, too!
And the bees, he eats honey that they produce to feed their young but to eat the royal jelly for the Queen is wrong? Oh the babies can starve, but don't let the Queen go hungry!
Next time I see him I'm going to climb up on stage and ask him to remove his shoes from public view, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that he's also got leather pants and underwear on so they'll have to go too!
Pete Burns went mental (Score:1, Funny)
Pete Burns goes mad. Again
Glueing shoes to cars - not a good sign
Poor Pete Burns. The Dead Or Alive singer
has been sectioned by the police for his
own safety.
The problems began when Pete was seen
in Notting Hill trying to superglue one of
his stiletto shoes to a parked car.
A friend saw him and, thinking he'd been on
a drink or drug binge, suggested he go home
and sober up.
Pete tried to go home, but he had forgetten
where he lived, so broke into his neighbour's
house. She came home a few hours later and
heard singing and music coming from upstairs.
Upon reaching the bathroom, she found Pete
sitting in her bath in full drag, singing
"You spin me round" in a trance-like state.
The voices told him to steal plants...
After spray-painting his feet gold and
visiting Browns nightclub in peep-toed kitten
heel shoes, Pete then decided to paint
"Nukleapatra" all over the inside of
his house. Finally, he dug up all his
neighbours plants so he could re-plant
them in his own garden.
Pete is currently being held in a maximum
security "celebrity relaxation centre".
Moz should be praised (Score:0)
Peta and hypocrisy (Score:0)
Kind of funny though that he'll wear leather while telling someone off for wearing fur, but he wimped out and wouldn't risk the wrath of Peta! It's probably a good thing though, they can be pretty violent, who knows what they would have done to him.
Fucking Stupid (Score:1)
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Would you still love Morrissey if he ate sausages? (Score:1)
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