posted by davidt on Wednesday September 18 2002, @11:00AM
paulybob writes:

Alain was interviewed today (Wednesday 18th September) at 1.30 pm by Liz on BBC6Music. He said that they'd all been tired after the long flight from San Diego via Washington, to London where they arrived at 10.30 pm on the 16th. That he'd loved the US tour which he thought was the most successful ever, or so the fans told him.

Went on to say that last night's gig was a success and all were looking forward to tonight's, and at (last night's) after show party he'd been with close friends and family and friends, whilst Morrissey had a table with a few very close friends.

Perhaps more interestingly he said there were 24 new songs from which to make an album and b-sides etc, they wouldnt all be used but there are 24 to choose from. He said the 5 that have been played so far weren't neccesarily the best by any means and that more of the new songs will be played in the European leg of the tour.

Liz ragged him about not playing Manchester to which he responded that he'd try to twist Morrissey's arm, but that gigs in both Manchester and Glasgow were real possibilities although nothing was fixed yet.He'd know the full European schedule by the end of this week.

After this telephone interview finished, Liz said that Morrissey and the band are doing a BBC session to be broadcast week beginning October 7th, on the Tom Robinson show (still BBC6Music)

This was quite a surprise-----New Studio recording from Morrissey coming soon to a Digital radio near you. Cool.

You should be able to listen on the internet at http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/. just follow links to Tom Robinson show nearer the time, and the how to listen link too.
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  • Is this the same as the already-announced Morrissey session (plus interview) on Janice Long's BBC 2 program ?
    Almodis <reversethis-{moc ... } {ta} {sidomla}> -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @11:24AM (#41874)
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    • Re:Same as Janice Long BBC 2 sess ? by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 18 2002, @03:15PM
      • Hello all,

        actually this will be the same as the session he's doing for The Janice Long Show on Radio 2. our sister-station 6Music are simply repeating it!

        you can catch it first on Radio 2 from midnight (British Summer Time) on October 3rd (ie the Wednesday into Thursday) on Janice's show.

        thanks to all those who have mailed questions to Janice - she is drowning under them all, but extremely grateful.

        best wishes,
        Anthony Dunning,
        The Janice Long Show, BBC Radio 2
        AnthonyD -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @03:43PM (#41927)
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  • And again I can hear those voices in my head... "Pleeeze, Morrisseeeeeeey! Come to Tlburg, Bruxelles,, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Warsaw, Napoli, Sofia, Lisbon, Essen-Vogelheim etc." :-)
    Sven68 -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @11:40AM (#41880)
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  • Does this mean there is no chance for adding any more US dates for those of us on the other coast? Fart.

    24 new songs? Holy mackerel. That rocks.
    Seasick -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @11:44AM (#41881)
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  • manchester gig! (Score:0, Redundant)

    so he might twist his arm eh! he should wring his fuckin neck if he won`t come up north.maybe he could play the phoenix club i`m sure gerry or brian would book him, ding dang do!!!!!.
    smilerbwfc -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @12:39PM (#41892)
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  • The Paradiso must be on that list!
    Come on Moz, make the dream real.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @12:54PM (#41898)
  • If Morrissey needed some "extras" to sit at his table, why didn't he call me? I just love after parties and schmoozing with all the lovelies. Oh, well... maybe next tour.

    On a serious note: Does he have any friends left that would even sit at his table?
    fut -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @01:34PM (#41906)
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  • way to let everyone know....
    suzanne -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @04:13PM (#41940)
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  • With all the news floating around regarding Morrissey's lack of recording contract with a major label, which prevents us all from hearing more than the five boot-legged versions of new material... could some one who is more knowlegable about the recording industry please explain to me why he doesn't just sign to an independant label, of whom there are countless numbers, and who (I'm sure) would never even think of imposing restrictions or stipulations on a star such as he?
    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @07:53PM (#41975)
    • First, disabuse yourself of the notion that good music will sell well. Music may be art, but records are products, and the failure to make that distinction has caused a lot of musicians a lot of sleepless nights.

      Morrissey said in a recent interview that he wants to be "in the game," that he doesn't want to make (I paraphrase) "private records for a private audience." So clearly he wants a major label, which can offer artists (among other things) a large enough advance to afford a major producer (the Steve Lilywhite's of the world don't come cheap) as well as the publicity muscle that is usually required to get a record played on MTV or mainstream radio.

      Does Morrissey need a major? Yes and no. If he wants any of the singles to chart on Billboard, he probably does-- I can't remember when the last time I saw an indie release on there, excepting perhaps a rap release. AOR and adult alternative radio (ie, your typical "modern rock" station in your average city) rarely play indie releases, which is usually a prerequisite to charting, obviously. (No airplay=no sales.)

      (As for the other side of the charting/sales coin, distribution, no one can beat a major, but there are a number of good independent distributors out there, and a lot of the smaller labels are in fact distributed by major conglomerates.)

      That said, a major label isn't required to reach respectable sales, though I don't know of many indie releases that have made it all the way to gold (500,000 copies). Liz Phair's "Exile in Guyville," released on Matador (which I think would be a great label for Moz), sold something like 250,000 copies over two years-- a stunning success by indie standards, and far better than most major label bands can manage.

      But there are a few problems with going the independent route. The first is that most of the independents aren't really independent any more-- "controlling shares" of the more successful independents (like Matador) were bought up by major labels (was it Sony, in this case?) in the mid-nineties. So many of the independents are now the equivalent of an "imprint" of a major book publisher-- a different name on the sleeve, yes, but the profits go to the same large company. How much control the majors have over these semi-independents is up for debate, but when it comes to the size of a contract for an artist such as Morrissey, they probably have at least veto power.

      Does Morrissey want too much money? I don't know, I have no idea how much he wants, but you might be surprised to know that the large figures you hear don't just go into the artist's pocket. About a decade ago, I was in a band that was in talks with Epic (a division of Sony), and one of the deals that was considered was $1 million for six albums. Sounds great, right? We're all rich now, right? Not really. Out of that million dollar advance, the band would have to pay for the recording of the albums (minimum of $80,000 each, at the time) plus the videos ($25,000, for each video, minimum) plus the promotional copies, plus the lawyer... the short of it is, what sounds great from the outside can look quite bleak from the inside. Advances disappear quickly, and not into the musician's pocket, and it can take a long time to recoup what the record company has "lent" you out of your own future earnings.

      (As a general rule, an artist makes about $1 per record sold, in what is called mechanical royalities. These are then split among the performers, though they don't have to be split equally. (Your real money is earned through publishing.))

      So should Morrissey just ask for a smaller advance? No way, if for this reason only: if a label gives a large advance, they have a vested interest in seeing that artist succeed, because the artist needs to sell a lot of copies to pay back the large advance to the label. Thus, the label gets the marketing minions out in force, pressuring radio stations to add the record to their playlist, shipping displays and posters to record stores, putting ads in major magazines
      Old Mathew -- Wednesday September 18 2002, @11:57PM (#41983)
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  • I sent Tom Robinson an e-mail and he claims morrissey will not be on. here is the exchange:

    we wish...
    only a cruel hoax alas

    Tom Robinson
    http://www.tomrobinson.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From:Jack Bear
    Sent: 19 September 2002 09:24
    To: '[email protected]'
    Subject: Morrissey on Oct 7th.

    I heard that Morrissey and his band will be playing on the Tom Robinson show
    October 7th. Can you confirm this? Also is there anyway for fans to attend
    the recording of the show?
    Anonymous -- Monday September 23 2002, @10:43AM (#42521)


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